Ep 151: The Voynich Manuscript Part 1

 
 

“Well certainly the Voynich Manuscript is the ‘limit text’ of Western occultism. No one can read it. It is truly an occult book.”

– The late ethnobotanist, mystic, psychonaut, lecturer and author, Terence McKenna

 

Background:

At the Beinecke Rare Book and Manuscript Library at Yale University, there is a book with the catalog call number, MS 408. It is one of the most examined and researched manuscripts to date because it is one of the most enigmatic documents ever discovered. It was purchased in 1912 at Villa Mondragone in Italy by an antiquities dealer named Wilfrid Voynich, and since there is no discernible title for the book, it is more commonly known as the Voynich Manuscript. The text is written on around 240 pages of vellum and is comprised of over 170,000 characters in the form of a code that no cryptographer has yet been able to decipher from a known language. Equally puzzling are the illustrations which accompany the writing. Most seem to be botanical in content but mostly show no identifiable plants. Along with the drawings of strange flora are diagrams of astrological charts and primitive caricatures of nude women in ceremonial displays. However, is the purpose of this manual merely medicinal or could its secrets be of a more magical instruction? And who could be the author of such a baffling work, one who thought its knowledge was so precious or dangerous enough that it needed to remain secret to all but the truly enlightened, or only to themselves? Until a solution to the Voynich Manuscript is found, it contends for the title of the most mysterious book in the world.

 
 
 

Location:

Villa Mondragone in an area called, from its many castles and villas, Castelli Romani about 12 miles (20 km) southeast of Rome, near the ancient town of Tusculum, where rare book and antiques dealer Wilfrid Voynich purchased the mysterious manuscript named after him, from a trunk reportedly once belonging to Athanasius Kircher.

 
 
The Voynich Manuscript
Yale University Press
 

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CREDITS:

Episode 151: The Voynich Manuscript Part 1.  Produced by Scott Philbrook & Forrest Burgess; Audio Editing by Sarah Vorhees Wendel; Sound Design by Ryan McCullough; Tess Pfeifle, Producer and Lead Researcher; Research Support from the astonishing League of Astonishing Researchers, a.k.a. The Astonishing Research Corps, or "A.R.C." for short. Copyright 2019 Astonishing Legends Productions, LLC. All Rights Reserved.

Ep 150: Jim Perry of the Euphomet Podcast

 
 

“We are in search of the other side... the thing under your bed... that signal of unknown origin... and the true stories behind the strange phenomena that are outside the sphere of popular consciousness.”

Jim Perry

 

Background:

Podcasters share a special bond, and this is especially true of those engaged with the pursuit of covering stories about the paranormal and unimaginable phenomena. It is perhaps because we know our pursuit of the truth behind these ineffable events will take us beyond the fringes of belief and acceptance. It leaves us and our subjects vulnerable. But those that manage to tell these stories well have also managed to capture and relay the vulnerability and humanity and behind them. Because without it, there is little context to our own lives and therefore little empathy or meaning, and they may well remain as nothing but improbable tales. One such storyteller is tonight’s guest, Jim Perry. Jim and his critically acclaimed audio documentary podcast Euphomet, have explored the strange and our relationship to it. The result is an intimate and fascinating look at how these encounters affect us on a personal level. Tonight we talk with Jim about the stories and his own experiences that have shaped his perspective and his show.

 
 
 

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CREDITS:

Episode 150: Jim Perry of the Euphomet Podcast.  Produced by Scott Philbrook & Forrest Burgess; Audio Editing by Sarah Vorhees Wendel; Sound Design by Ryan McCullough; Tess Pfeifle, Producer and Lead Researcher; Research Support from the astonishing League of Astonishing Researchers, a.k.a. The Astonishing Research Corps, or "A.R.C." for short. Copyright 2019 Astonishing Legends Productions, LLC. All Rights Reserved.

Ep 149: Dan, Susan, Micah Hanks, and Missing Time

 
 

“People like us, who believe in physics, know that the distinction between past, present, and future is only a stubbornly persistent illusion.”

– Albert Einstein

 

Background:

As we often say on the show, if you haven't had a strange, paranormal experience, it's likely someone you know has. This happens to be the case with two college friends of Forrest, Dan Povenmire and Susan Lambert. In the mid-1980s, Susan was working as a reporter for the student newspaper of The University of Southern California, The Daily Trojan. She had asked Dan if he wanted to accompany her to an interview with a movie director. They set out on a drive that should only have taken no more than 40 minutes to complete. But upon arriving at the hotel where the director was giving interviews, learned that they were somehow around 3.5 hours late. This seeming impossibility has baffled Dan ever since and fueled a search for answers. But to add to the mystery, this wouldn't be the only unexplainable experience of missing time, as the pair would encounter another episode during a subsequent car ride together. And like with the first trip, each would remember a few odd sights during it that the other didn't recall. While unexplainable disruptions in time are rare, many people have reported experiencing a disturbing wrinkle in the fabric of time which we trust should always be smooth. Just what is going on when something so seemingly fixed and unalterable as the passage of time fluctuates? In the latter portion of the show, writer, field researcher, and podcaster Micah Hanks joins us for a discussion on some possible theories as to what might be happening scientifically with the phenomenon of Missing Time.

 
 

Location:

The University of Southern California, where Dan and Susan left to conduct an interview for the school newspaper, The Daily Trojan and ended up missing nearly 3.5 hours of time during their car ride.

 
 
 

Related Books:

Communion: A True Story
By Whitley Strieber
Consciousness Explained
By Daniel C. Dennett
A Brief History of Time
By Stephen Hawking
 

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CREDITS:

Episode 149: Dan, Susan, Micah Hanks, and Missing Time.  Produced by Scott Philbrook & Forrest Burgess; Audio Editing by Sarah Vorhees Wendel; Sound Design by Ryan McCullough; Tess Pfeifle, Producer and Lead Researcher; Research Support from the astonishing League of Astonishing Researchers, a.k.a. The Astonishing Research Corps, or "A.R.C." for short. Copyright 2019 Astonishing Legends Productions, LLC. All Rights Reserved.

Ep 148: Blood Báthory Part 2

Above image: A likeness of Elizabeth Báthory created from her physical description found in historical records. Historical Mixed Media Figure of Elizabeth Báthory produced by artist/historian George S. Stuart and photographed by Peter d'Aprix, from the George S. Stuart Gallery of Historical Figures® archive (http://www.galleryhistoricalfigures.com). Used by CC BY-SA 3.0

 
 

“See my hands, how cold they are?” “It is nothing, my Lady,” the guards assured her. “Will you not now retire for the night?” The next morning, August 25, 1614, hearing no movement, the guards entered her chamber and found her lying on the floor with her feet supported by a pillow. She was dead.

Paraphrased from Tony Thorne’s book Countess Dracula, from Bloomsbury Publishing.

 

Background:

We love to hate our villains as much as we love to love our heroes. And many of us have a morbid fascination with some of history's most sinister characters, perhaps as a means of understanding the darkest aspects of human behavior. But as is regularly the case, the truth behind the real nature and actions of historical figures we can only glean from the reporting of others in that age and often many years after. Even official accounts are just a widely agreed upon set of assessments by a group of people, each with their own biases and personal opinions. In other words, one person's villain can be another's hero, or at least grossly misunderstood. In the case of Elizabeth Báthory, the authorities finally took action against one of their own, leveling upon her a judgment that could appear both lenient and harsh, but in either case, revealing an investigation that would forever brand her as one of the evilest people in antiquity with her name living on in infamy. Whether or not the testimony against her had any truth to it at all or what the real motivation for her incarceration was, is still debated by historians and researchers. What is clear is that misery, violence, and torture were part of the norm for her time. Some would argue that the stories about her were exaggerations, and her deeds merely accepted practice by the aristocracy of the day. But does normalcy justify a person's acts of any era? Where is the unacceptable line of behavior, regardless of the epoch or social status? History has judged Elizabeth Báthory. How will you?

 
 

Location:

Čachtice Castle (pronounced Chack-teet-seh or Chack-teet-ski in Slovak) where Elizabeth Báthory lived and carried out most of her alleged crimes, until she was reportedly bricked up in a few of its rooms until her death in 1614. First built in the mid-13th century, the castle had undergone several periods of transformation and renovation until it was captured in 1708 in an uprising against the Habsburgs by the Hungarian rebels of Francis II Rákóczi , theorized to be the father of The Count of St. Germain. Today, the castle ruins are a tourist attraction in present-day Slovakia.

 
 

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CREDITS:

Episode 148: Blood Báthory Part 2.  Produced by Scott Philbrook & Forrest Burgess; Audio Editing by Sarah Vorhees Wendel; Sound Design by Ryan McCullough; Tess Pfeifle, Producer and Lead Researcher; Research Support from the astonishing League of Astonishing Researchers, a.k.a. The Astonishing Research Corps, or "A.R.C." for short. Copyright 2019 Astonishing Legends Productions, LLC. All Rights Reserved.

Ep 147: Blood Báthory Part 1

 
 

“I hesitate to bring the horrible crime to light, for I hardly believe that anyone will credit what I have uncovered, not only because it bloodily besmirches and brings disgrace upon the princely Báthorys who are deserving of the best from the Christians of this country, but because, moreover, the barbarity of it is so enormous, it will be a cause of eternal horror.”

– Jesuit Priest László Turóczi, as quoted by author Tony Thorne in his book, Countess Dracula

 

Background:

Countess Elizabeth Báthory was a Hungarian noblewoman and one of the most wealthy and powerful aristocrats in eastern Europe during the late 16th and early 17th centuries. Together with her husband Ferenc Nádasdy, a military hero known as the Black Knight of Hungary, Báthory held numerous estates, lands, and villages. She also currently holds the Guinness World Record for being the most prolific female serial killer and most prolific murderer of the western world. Báthory had been accused in the testimonies of over 300 witnesses and survivors of some of the most horrific tortures and murders imaginable before she was arrested, even by medieval standards. Her victims were her maidservants and lesser noble protégés, all girls, with some as young as ten years old. Years after her death, a legend had formed that Báthory had even routinely bathed in and possibly drank the blood of her virginal victims, believing that the pureblood had retained her beauty. Some claim that Báthory's story became the partial inspiration for Bram Stoker's Dracula, along with her more famous sanguinary neighbor, Vlad the Impaler. But were any of the accusations against Báthory true? Was she merely a victim herself of a political and gender-biased conspiracy aimed at confiscating her riches and properties? As we'll learn once again, the truth behind our legends is often shrouded in a fog of conjecture misting through a forest of unknowns. Join us tonight as we examine the case of Elizabeth Báthory who, regardless of her actual guilt or innocence, will be forever known as, "The Blood Countess."

 
 

Location:

Čachtice Castle (pronounced Chack-teet-seh or Chack-teet-ski in Slovak) where Elizabeth Báthory lived and carried out most of her alleged crimes, until she was reportedly bricked up in a few of its rooms until her death in 1614. First built in the mid-13th century, the castle had undergone several periods of transformation and renovation until it was captured in 1708 in an uprising against the Habsburgs by the Hungarian rebels of Francis II Rákóczi , theorized to be the father of The Count of St. Germain. Today, the castle ruins are a tourist attraction in present-day Slovakia.

 
 
 

Related Books:

 

Suggested Listening:

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    Subscribe to Family Ghosts wherever you get your podcasts.

  • Two Girls One Ghost – is a new podcast hosted by Corinne and Sabrina. It's not what you think... or is it? It's not, it’s a paranormal comedy podcast! Who doesn’t love a good ghost story?! The hosts sure do and they bring you new haunting tales each week. Are you planning a hike? Not anymore! What about a trip abroad? You may want to rethink that... Pack your sage sticks and prepare to find out your favorite pizza place is anything but “family friendly.” They talk black eyed kids, shadow people, haunted prisons, exorcisms, visits from family members and pets, and everything in between. Listen closely and you may hear the occasional EVP! These girls are haunted... The best part? The Ghost who continually interferes with their recording making them the most haunted podcast in America. Join them every Sunday as they scare themselves, each other, and you! Have a ghost story of your own? Email twogirlsoneghostpodcast@gmail.com and you just may hear your story on the next “Encounters” episode. Two Girls One Ghost is available now on Apple Podcasts and all other listening destinations. See you on the other side!

 

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Episode 147: Blood Báthory Part 1.  Produced by Scott Philbrook & Forrest Burgess; Audio Editing by Sarah Vorhees Wendel; Sound Design by Ryan McCullough; Tess Pfeifle, Producer and Lead Researcher; Research Support from the astonishing League of Astonishing Researchers, a.k.a. The Astonishing Research Corps, or "A.R.C." for short. Copyright 2019 Astonishing Legends Productions, LLC. All Rights Reserved.

Ep 146: Lyle Blackburn – Cryptid Hunter

 
 

“When I was sitting in the car, I saw him from the neck down. He was outside the driver’s side window. After about two yards, he jumped on the roof. I saw hands, rough-looking black finger-nailed hands, sticking down from the windshield!”

– Chris Davis’ account of his encounter with the Lizard Man, from Lyle Blackburn’s book by the same name

 

Background:

To really study the paranormal, any good researcher will tell you one must get out in the field to investigate the sightings, and that is especially true when it comes to cryptozoology. This is precisely what our interview guest has done. Lyle Blackburn is a full-time author, musician, and cryptid researcher from Texas, whose life-long fascination with legendary creatures has led him to write several acclaimed books, including Momo: The Strange Case of the Missouri Monster, The Beast of Boggy Creek, and Lizard Man. Lyle is a frequent guest on radio programs such as Coast to Coast AM and has been featured on numerous television shows like Monsters and Mysteries in America, Finding Bigfoot, and Strange Evidence, as well as other programs airing on the Animal Planet, Destination America, Discovery Science, and A&E channels. In addition, Lyle is a regular contributor for the monthly horror magazine, Rue Morgue. Lyle can also be heard as the frontman for his rock band Ghoultown, along with narrating/producing several Small Town Monsters documentaries, including Terror in the Skies, Boggy Creek Monster, The Mothman of Point Pleasant, and Bray Road Beast. When he’s not chasing cryptids and writing about them or performing with his band, Lyle can be found speaking at various cryptozoology conferences and horror conventions around the United States. Tonight, we sit down with Lyle to discuss his books and his thoughts about some of the most chilling encounters with bizarre and frightening creatures ever reported.

 
 

Location:

Louisiana, Missouri, where a large, long-haired, man-like creature since known as “Momo” was spotted on multiple occasions by local residents.

 
 
 
Boggy Creek Monster
Starring Lyle Blackburn
Wood Knocks Volume 1: A Journal of Sasquatch Research
By David Weatherly, Lyle Blackburn, Nick Redfern, Ken Gerhard, Linda Godfrey
The Legend of Boggy Creek
Starring Vern Stierman, Chuck Pierce Jr., William Stumpp, Willie E. Smith, Lloyd Bowen
Boggy Creek
Starring Damon Lipari, Melissa Carnell, Shavon Kirksey, Stephanie Honore, Texas Battle
 

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Episode 146: Lyle Blackburn – Cryptid Hunter.  Produced by Scott Philbrook & Forrest Burgess; Audio Editing by Sarah Vorhees Wendel; Sound Design by Ryan McCullough; Tess Pfeifle, Producer and Lead Researcher; Research Support from the astonishing League of Astonishing Researchers, a.k.a. The Astonishing Research Corps, or "A.R.C." for short. Copyright 2019 Astonishing Legends Productions, LLC. All Rights Reserved.

Ep 145: Brandon Massullo and The Ghost Studies

 
 

“The Survival Hypothesis is looking at whether your consciousness, soul, spirit, memories, or personality go on after you die. For me, that is the most fascinating part of Parapsychology.”

Paraphrased from our interview with tonight’s guest, Brandon Massullo

 

Background:

Does some element of us exist after we die? Is it possible that a message in a dire time of need could reach a loved one across vast distances without the aid of electronic or mechanical means, with a form of psychic energy either just before or after death? Could our emotional spirit be so intense in a moment of crisis that it leaves an imprint or echo that can reverberate in the ether and be heard, seen or sensed again and again? There have been many reported cases where this seems to have happened, and you may have seen such stories in the news or even have one from your own family. Don't you wish scientists would study these examples in a search for answers to some of the most significant questions of all? Well, some scientists are because this type of occurrence falls under the field of parapsychology and we're fortunate enough this evening to speak with Brandon Massullo. Brandon is a clinical therapist and parapsychologist with graduate degrees in clinical counseling from the University of Toledo and psychological research methods from the University of Edinburgh in Scotland, UK. His research at the University of Edinburgh centered on neurobiological correlates of ghostly encounters, and he studied within the Koestler Parapsychology Unit at the University of Edinburgh under the supervision of author and international lecturer, Dr. Caroline Watt. Brandon has been fascinated by paranormal phenomena for 20 years and has been a participant and featured speaker in numerous paranormal forums and events. Join us for a fascinating discussion of his research into the possibility that our cries, or at least some form of our being, may linger beyond our earthly existence.

 
 
 
 
 

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Episode 145: Brandon Massullo and The Ghost Studies.  Produced by Scott Philbrook & Forrest Burgess; Audio Editing by Sarah Vorhees Wendel; Sound Design by Ryan McCullough; Tess Pfeifle, Producer and Lead Researcher; Research Support from the astonishing League of Astonishing Researchers, a.k.a. The Astonishing Research Corps, or "A.R.C." for short. Copyright 2019 Astonishing Legends Productions, LLC. All Rights Reserved.

Ep 144: The Patterson-Gimlin Film Part 6: Conclusions with Bob Gimlin

Above image: An autographed photo of Bob Gimlin, from his 2019 Fresno, CA talk. Copyright Bob Gimlin ©2017

 
 

"Oh my God, they really do exist!”

– Bob Gimlin, the man who was with Roger Patterson when “Patty” the Sasquatch was filmed

 

Background:

Whether you believe in Bigfoot or not, the story of the Patterson-Gimlin film remains a superb example of the scientific investigation of an anomalous event that falls within the realm of the paranormal. Other documentation of things like UFOs, ghosts, and other cryptids have come under close examination throughout the years, but little has been of such relative quality and few examples if any have been able to provide such relatable data to examine. This relatability is due to the corporeality of the subject in the film. Whether an unknown primate or a man in a suit, it seems it is something from the world of which we know. Perhaps it’s not any data which is so troubling and debatable amongst the authorities, but the implications that data leads to if the film is authentic. In any case, it is a film and an event which deserves full reconsideration. Although of little value to scientists, another component worth considering is the personal experience, because it is that which gives the rest of us context. As we wrap up this series with our conclusions, we were fortunate to talk with one of the two men who were there, Bob Gimlin. Maybe character shouldn’t be considered when trying to determine the validity of this incident, but we can attest that Mr. Gimlin is as real and genuine a man as you’ll meet. After decades of remaining silent about his role, we’re grateful he’s finally agreed to tell his story because he deserves to be heard.

 
 

Location:

Researchers have re-located the site where Roger Patterson and Bob Gimlin had their encounter with “Patty” the Sasquatch, on the banks of Bluff Creek around 1:30 p.m. on Friday, October 20, 1967. Bluff Creek is a tributary of the Klamath River, about 25 logging-road miles northwest of the town of Orleans, in Del Norte County California. GPS coordinates provided by BIGFOOT’S bLOG website.

 
 

Reference Links:

 

Film Scans and Composites from Bill Munns

The following are scans of frames, composites and charts from Reels 1 and 2 of Roger Patterson’s footage, put together by Bill Munns, which can be found on his website here: http://www.themunnsreport.com/tmr_v2_design_005.htm All images copyrighted, for research purposes only.

A composite of #1 and #2 Panorama Composites, pieced together by Bill Munns

PGF Reel One Panorama #1

PGF Reel One Panorama #2

PGF Reel One Panoramas 3, 4 and 5

PGF Reel One Panorama #6

Head Shape Sequence Chart

Reference Chart #3 – Foot Walk Sequence

Composite scans of Jim McClarin walking Patty’s estimated path. Film copyright 1968 from John Green’s original footage, scans by Bill Munns, January 31, 2009. For research only.

 

Related Books:

When Roger Met Patty
By William Munns
The Bigfoot Film Controversy
By Roger Patterson, Christopher L. Murphy
The Making of Bigfoot: The Inside Story
By Greg Long, Kal K. Korff
Sasquatch Science: Searching for Bigfoot LIVE 2 DVD Set
Starring D. Jeffrey Meldrum, John A. Bningernagel, Gordon Strasenburgh, John Green
 
 
 
Bigfoot: The Mysterious Monster
By Robert Guenette, Frances Guenette
 

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CREDITS:

Episode 144: The Patterson-Gimlin Film Part 6.  Produced by Scott Philbrook & Forrest Burgess; Audio Editing by Sarah Vorhees Wendel; Sound Design by Ryan McCullough; Tess Pfeifle, Producer and Lead Researcher; Research Support from the astonishing League of Astonishing Researchers, a.k.a. The Astonishing Research Corps, or "A.R.C." for short. Copyright 2019 Astonishing Legends Productions, LLC. All Rights Reserved.

Ep 143: The Patterson-Gimlin Film Part 5

Above image: an enlarged section from one of Bill Munns’ PGF scans.

 
 

“[The] thing that mystifies me is that, given how incredible the Patterson film is, somewhere in the last 50-odd years, somebody else should have been taking some kind of footage that was at least close to it, but there's nothing even close. Everything else is almost junk by comparison.”

– Hollywood Special Makeup Effects artist, computer graphics expert and PGF archivist, William “Bill” Munns

 

Background:

There are a few researchers for whom the Patterson-Gimlin Film has sparked a life-long quest to analyze its mystery and the possibility of Sasquatch. Concerning the preservation of the actual film itself, no one has done more to secure its integrity than William “Bill” Munns. While the original 16mm Kodachrome Color-Reversal film shot by Roger Patterson has since gone missing, Munns built a mobile High Definition digital film scanner and with exclusive permission from Patterson’s widow Patricia, has painstakingly scanned every frame of her first generation copy at 5K resolution, even discovering an additional two frames at the beginning, making the total count 954 frames in total. Bill Munns has spent most of his long career in filmmaking and creating special makeup effects, starting as a makeup artist with Universal Studios in 1969. He created full body suits for fictional creatures such as “Swamp Thing” and “The Beastmaster,” and so he brings to the PGF controversy well-established expertise in the fabrication of various creature costumes. Munns also has spent the last 22 years doing computer graphics, which positioned him well to do the image analysis of the PGF film frames. So he is uniquely well-qualified to analyze evidence consisting of 16mm film, and showing what many suspect is just a human in a fur creature costume. Tonight we sit down with Bill Munns for an interview in which he discusses his process, analysis and his conclusions which lead him to believe the film to be authentic.

 
 

Location:

Researchers have re-located the site where Roger Patterson and Bob Gimlin had their encounter with “Patty” the Sasquatch, on the banks of Bluff Creek around 1:30 p.m. on Friday, October 20, 1967. Bluff Creek is a tributary of the Klamath River, about 25 logging-road miles northwest of the town of Orleans, in Del Norte County California. GPS coordinates provided by BIGFOOT’S bLOG website.

 
 

Reference Links:

 

Film Scans and Composites from Bill Munns

The following are scans of frames, composites and charts from Reels 1 and 2 of Roger Patterson’s footage, put together by Bill Munns, which can be found on his website here: http://www.themunnsreport.com/tmr_v2_design_005.htm All images copyrighted, for research purposes only.

A composite of #1 and #2 Panorama Composites, pieced together by Bill Munns

PGF Reel One Panorama #1

PGF Reel One Panorama #2

PGF Reel One Panoramas 3, 4 and 5

PGF Reel One Panorama #6

Head Shape Sequence Chart

Reference Chart #3 – Foot Walk Sequence

Composite scans of Jim McClarin walking Patty’s estimated path. Film copyright 1968 from John Green’s original footage, scans by Bill Munns, January 31, 2009. For research only.

 

Related Books:

When Roger Met Patty
By William Munns
The Bigfoot Film Controversy
By Roger Patterson, Christopher L. Murphy
The Making of Bigfoot: The Inside Story
By Greg Long, Kal K. Korff
Sasquatch Science: Searching for Bigfoot LIVE 2 DVD Set
Starring D. Jeffrey Meldrum, John A. Bningernagel, Gordon Strasenburgh, John Green
 
 
 
Bigfoot: The Mysterious Monster
By Robert Guenette, Frances Guenette
 

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CREDITS:

Episode 143: The Patterson-Gimlin Film Part 5.  Produced by Scott Philbrook & Forrest Burgess; Audio Editing by Sarah Vorhees Wendel; Sound Design by Ryan McCullough; Tess Pfeifle, Producer and Lead Researcher; Research Support from the astonishing League of Astonishing Researchers, a.k.a. The Astonishing Research Corps, or "A.R.C." for short. Copyright 2019 Astonishing Legends Productions, LLC. All Rights Reserved.

Ep 142: The Patterson-Gimlin Film Part 4

Above Image: Dr. Grover Krantz, a physical anthropologist specializing in Evolutionary Anthropology and Primatology holding up a Bigfoot cast. At first a skeptic of the Patterson-Gimlin film, after careful examination of it became one of the film’s leading proponents. Photo credit: CHUCK STOODY/ASSOCIATED PRESS

 
 

“To make sense of Bigfoot as a phenomenon, we have to try to understand why it persists. If Bigfoot is not an animal but an invention, how do human actors keep the legend going, generation after generation?”

– Anthropologist David Daegling from his 2004 book, Bigfoot Exposed: An Anthropologist Examines America's Enduring Legend.

 

Background:

It's easy for the uninformed, casual observer to make a declaration on a website's Comments Section, but what do the experts think about the Patterson-Gimlin Film? If we look to science to provide answers about the subject in the PGF, then we should consider the evaluations of physical anthropologists who specialize in primate morphology and authorities in biomechanics and bipedal locomotion. Fortunately, the academics and costume professionals who did weigh in ignored the gossip about character and focused only on the film. Unfortunately, most of the scientific community wouldn't bother giving the film any consideration and those that were asked to, dismissed it outright after limited viewing with no careful examination. What's interesting is that the few scientists who did analyze the film thoroughly and gave a favorable conclusion did so with a detailed report, while those that were doubtful about its authenticity had more superficial observations or disagreements about the other scientists' findings. This is to say there doesn't appear to be a point-by-point scientific argument disproving the creature's existence. Perhaps the most widely acceptable objective scientific review is akin to anthropologist David J. Daegling's assessment, generalized as, although the film's subject is compelling, the possibility of a hoax cannot be ruled out. But if it is a hoax, then the film must show a human in a suit, which then leads to the question, how could such a convincing costume be fabricated, especially by a layman? For that answer, who better to ask than the professionals in that field, the Film and TV Special Effects creature creators? Please join us for the fourth installment of our series on the PGF as we hear from the experts.

 
 

Location:

Researchers have re-located the site where Roger Patterson and Bob Gimlin had their encounter with “Patty” the Sasquatch, on the banks of Bluff Creek around 1:30 p.m. on Friday, October 20, 1967. Bluff Creek is a tributary of the Klamath River, about 25 logging-road miles northwest of the town of Orleans, in Del Norte County California. GPS coordinates provided by BIGFOOT’S bLOG website.

 
 

Reference Links:

 

Film Scans and Composites from Bill Munns

The following are scans of frames, composites and charts from Reels 1 and 2 of Roger Patterson’s footage, put together by Bill Munns, which can be found on his website here: http://www.themunnsreport.com/tmr_v2_design_005.htm All images copyrighted, for research purposes only.

A composite of #1 and #2 Panorama Composites, pieced together by Bill Munns

PGF Reel One Panorama #1

PGF Reel One Panorama #2

PGF Reel One Panoramas 3, 4 and 5

PGF Reel One Panorama #6

Head Shape Sequence Chart

Reference Chart #3 – Foot Walk Sequence

Composite scans of Jim McClarin walking Patty’s estimated path. Film copyright 1968 from John Green’s original footage, scans by Bill Munns, January 31, 2009. For research only.

 

Related Books:

The Bigfoot Film Controversy
By Roger Patterson, Christopher L. Murphy
When Roger Met Patty
By William Munns
The Making of Bigfoot: The Inside Story
By Greg Long, Kal K. Korff
Sasquatch Science: Searching for Bigfoot LIVE 2 DVD Set
Starring D. Jeffrey Meldrum, John A. Bningernagel, Gordon Strasenburgh, John Green
 
 
 
Bigfoot: The Mysterious Monster
By Robert Guenette, Frances Guenette
 

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CREDITS:

Episode 142: The Patterson-Gimlin Film Part 4.  Produced by Scott Philbrook & Forrest Burgess; Audio Editing by Sarah Vorhees Wendel; Sound Design by Ryan McCullough; Tess Pfeifle, Producer and Lead Researcher; Research Support from the astonishing League of Astonishing Researchers, a.k.a. The Astonishing Research Corps, or "A.R.C." for short. Copyright 2019 Astonishing Legends Productions, LLC. All Rights Reserved.

Bonus: Jorma Taccone and Chaka

Above Image: Jorma Taccone, as the higher primate creature, “Chaka” from the 2009 motion picture, Land of the Lost

 
 
 

Background:

Tonight, we have a special bonus episode for you, a commercial-free interview with a very talented writer, director, and performer who has actually worn a sophisticated ape-like costume for a Hollywood feature film and lived to tell about it. You may know Jorma Taccone from the wildly popular comedy trio, “The Lonely Island.” Along with Andy Samberg and Akiva Shaffer, the three have gone on to produce some of the most memorable and hilarious “Digital Shorts” for Saturday Night Live and their feature films, comedy albums and live performances have garnered them millions of fans. But what you may not know about Jorma is that he portrayed the loveably goofy primate-like character “Chaka” for the 2009 film “Land of the Lost,” inspired by the original 1974 children’s television series. While you might think hopping around in a monkey suit for a movie would be fun (certainly Jorma thought so at first) it turns out the hours-long, daily application of the Special Effects makeup was mind-numbingly tedious, and the performance while wearing it was physically grueling and exhausting. We’ll hear from Jorma about his experience with a professional, expensive, skin-tight costume, some funny anecdotes about shooting the movie, and his thoughts on the appearance of the creature from the Patterson-Gimlin Film. As many experts have stated, if the subject in the PGF was actually just a man in a costume, that costume was one of the best that’s ever been made.

 
 

Location:

Researchers have re-located the site where Roger Patterson and Bob Gimlin had their encounter with “Patty” the Sasquatch, on the banks of Bluff Creek around 1:30 p.m. on Friday, October 20, 1967. Bluff Creek is a tributary of the Klamath River, about 25 logging-road miles northwest of the town of Orleans, in Del Norte County California. GPS coordinates provided by BIGFOOT’S bLOG website.