Close Encounters

Ep 133: The Betz Sphere Part 4

The terrain pictured above is very similar and close to where the Betz Sphere was originally found. Photo courtesy of the Betz Family. Copyright 2019, Astonishing Legends, All Rights Reserved.

 
 

Wait a second Gerri, do you have a copy of the X-ray?”

“Do I ever, friend! I have the original! And from what I can tell, I’m not supposed to have it.”

– A Paraphrased exchange between Gerri and a Science Journalist and family friend who wrote an un-produced script about the Betz Sphere.

 

Link to the webpage showcasing the X-Rays of the Sphere:

https://www.astonishinglegends.com/xray

 
 

Location: Near Fort George Island, Florida

The approximate location where the Sphere was originally found in 1974. Note: the area in 1974 was largely unpopulated and undeveloped and has since seen significant growth.

 

Background:

As we close this final chapter on the story of the Betz Sphere, we've all been given a rare and exclusive glimpse into what happens when an impossible object becomes known to the world. We've seen what can happen to a regular family that only sought to find answers about its purpose. We've seen how authorities and officials behave when they too are mystified about an item that most are satisfied to dismiss as discarded industrial junk; their public stance hiding personal and professional curiosity. We've seen how the news media tries to answer the questions we all have but falls short, leaving the real story untold and yet retold again and again with incorrect or incomplete information because that's all the public is allowed. Most importantly, we've all now seen inside this mystery but are once again reminded that when it comes to High Strangeness, the answers we receive we may not understand. In the end, what we can safely conclude is that the Betz Sphere may or may not have come from an alien world, but it was evidently created in a secret place the populace is not allowed to know.

 

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CREDITS:

Episode 133 The Betz Sphere Part 4.  Produced by Scott Philbrook & Forrest Burgess; Audio Editing by Sarah Vorhees Wendel; Sound Design by Ryan McCullough; Tess Pfeifle, Producer and Lead Researcher; Research Support from the astonishing League of Astonishing Researchers, a.k.a. The Astonishing Research Corps, or "A.R.C." for short. Copyright 2019 Astonishing Legends Productions, LLC. All Rights Reserved.

Bonus: Earhart's Plane? Update with Bill Snavely

 
 
 
 
 

Location: autonomous region of buka

Background:

For 13 years, Earhart researcher Bill Snavely has been pursuing a lead that no other person in his field has considered. In that pursuit, he’s been the only one to find a fully intact aircraft that under strict comparison to Earhart’s Lockheed Electra 10E, seems to have no differences. Since he first appeared on our show in May of 2018, he has assembled a team of unparalleled experts that have been to Buka and returned with startling new information. Now that team aims to return as soon as possible.

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CREDITS:

Episode post 133-bonus: A follow up to Bill Snavely’s team’s first expedition to Buka. Produced by Scott Philbrook & Forrest Burgess; Audio Editing by Sarah Vorhees Wendel; Sound Design by Ryan McCullough; Tess Pfeifle, Producer and Lead Researcher; Research Support from the astonishing League of Astonishing Researchers, a.k.a. The Astonishing Research Corps, or "A.R.C." for short. Copyright 2019 Astonishing Legends Productions, LLC. All Rights Reserved.

Ep 132: The Betz Sphere Part 3

 
 

“And all of a sudden a man grabbed her from behind around the neck. She fell off of the ottoman that she was sitting on and dropped the phone. She was screaming into the phone, "They're trying to get me! They're trying to get me!" – Paraphrased from our interview with a Betz family member, recounting an attack on Gerri Betz during the fervor surrounding the Betz Sphere.

 
 
 

Location: Near Fort George Island, Florida

The approximate location where the Sphere was originally found in 1974. Note: the area in 1974 was largely unpopulated and undeveloped and has since seen significant growth.

 

Background:

For something that many would claim was just a misplaced piece of industrial equipment, the Betz Sphere attracted a lot of serious attention, some official, some dubious and some a bit of both. Despite the initial vague or dismissive statements from the US Navy and noted scientists such as Dr. J. Allen Hynek that were reported by the news media, they were determined to continue seeking answers from it. The interest didn't stop with our government either, as mysterious foreign agents had shown up and expressed a keen interest in obtaining the orb. Subterfuge, manipulation both social and scientific, a disproportionate offer of a large sum of money, and even a possibly related assault all seem like a lot of effort to obtain an old discarded valve ball.

 

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CREDITS:

Episode 132: The Betz Sphere Part 3.  Produced by Scott Philbrook & Forrest Burgess; Audio Editing by Sarah Vorhees Wendel; Sound Design by Ryan McCullough; Tess Pfeifle, Producer and Lead Researcher; Research Support from the astonishing League of Astonishing Researchers, a.k.a. The Astonishing Research Corps, or "A.R.C." for short. Copyright 2019 Astonishing Legends Productions, LLC. All Rights Reserved.

Ep 131: The Betz Sphere Part 2

 
 

So the ball gets delivered back to her with something like a big manila folder. She opens the folder, and it's X-rays, and they are X-rays that show the inside of the ball, so it's the first time we see what we're looking at. –Paraphrased from a Betz family member’s interview with Astonishing Legends, January 2019

 
 
 

Location: Near Fort George Island, Florida

The approximate location where the Sphere was originally found in 1974. Note: the land in 1974 was mostly unpopulated and undeveloped and has since seen significant growth.

 

Background:

With every paranormal event or object, there are the questions of how did this happen or what was this thing? But the equally important issue is, how would this affect me? Because when something seemingly impossible happens, we have no context unless it had interaction with somebody. It becomes meaningful when we ponder the implications to our own human experience. As much as the Betz Sphere created a scientific mystery it also created a family story. Tonight, we're fortunate to present an exclusive interview with a member of the Betz family who was there to witness the entire ordeal and who has generously agreed to share their family story and set the record straight. Someone or something secretive created this sphere and while its operation and purpose remain unknown to the public, how it became known to the world and how that affected their lives is their story alone.

 

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CREDITS:

Episode 131: The Betz Sphere Part 2.  Produced by Scott Philbrook & Forrest Burgess; Audio Editing by Sarah Vorhees Wendel; Sound Design by Ryan McCullough; Tess Pfeifle, Producer and Lead Researcher; Research Support from the astonishing League of Astonishing Researchers, a.k.a. The Astonishing Research Corps, or "A.R.C." for short. Copyright 2019 Astonishing Legends Productions, LLC. All Rights Reserved.

Ep 130: The Betz Sphere Part 1

 
 

“They told me to put the orb the floor and give it a push. It rolled a ways and stopped. Then It turned by itself then rolled about four feet. It stopped. Then it turned again and rolled to the left about eight feet, made a big arc and came right back to my feet.”  - Lou Egner, photojournalist for The Jacksonville Journal

 
 
 
 

Background:

Sometimes people come into our lives that change everything. Sometimes that change can come from an object. In March of 1974, the Betz family of Fort George Island, Florida found such an object, while investigating their property for wildfire damage. It appeared to be a shiny steel ball, measuring 7.96 inches in diameter and weighing 21.34 pounds. Being a simple, yet so out-of-place item in the middle of nowhere, it caught the attention of the eldest Betz son Terry, who took it home as a souvenir. The family, and eventually the rest of the world, would soon learn that this was no ordinary metal ball. The sphere would demonstrate highly unusual properties, like rolling that would indicate self-guidance, vibrating and emitting high-pitched frequencies, and a strange magnetic quality. These actions would be witnessed not only by the family but by the military, scientists and news media, all eager to determine who made this thing and why. While most authorities would go on record as believing the sphere was human-made, all would admit that it was no doubt weird, and no group could come forward to claim it was positively theirs. In the end, it would not be the sphere so much that would change the lives of the Betz family, but the people who were interested in it. As one might expect, if you possess an item that breaks the laws of physics, some organizations will go to great lengths to acquire it.

 

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CREDITS:

Episode 130: The Betz Sphere Part 1.  Produced by Scott Philbrook & Forrest Burgess; Audio Editing by Sarah Vorhees Wendel; Sound Design by Ryan McCullough; Tess Pfeifle, Producer and Lead Researcher; Research Support from the astonishing League of Astonishing Researchers, a.k.a. The Astonishing Research Corps, or "A.R.C." for short. Copyright 2019 Astonishing Legends Productions, LLC. All Rights Reserved.

Ep 122: Mysterious Deaths along the 37th Parallel

 
 
 

In the history of animal mutilations, ten thousand over the past fifty years -- nobody [has] ever been caught or arrested. Every single one of them was eventually deemed unexplained.

– Chuck Zukowski, paraphrased from page 43 of the Kindle Edition of Ben Mezrich’s book, The 37th Parallel: The Secret Truth Behind America's UFO Highway

 
 
 

Location:

Ouray, Colorado, where a psychic sensed a friendly Sasquatch encounter would occur, but instead it ended in terror.

 

Background:

Most of the encounters with Bigfoot that you hear about seem benign, frightening to be sure, but more awkward and penumbral than violent. However, as we'll soon learn, that's not always the case. Our guest tonight is UFO and Paranormal Field Investigator Chuck Zukowski. For the past 30 years, Chuck has been researching and investigating a wide range of phenomena within the realm of the paranormal, everything from UFO evidence & abductions, to animal mutilations, ghosts, and of course, Bigfoot. Utilizing his background as a former Reserve Deputy Sheriff with the El Paso County, Colorado Sheriff’s Department, "Chuck approaches every investigation from a skeptical point of view looking for any known possibility before claiming otherwise. He also implements new and innovative field experiments from time to time to enhance his investigations looking for new evidence." Having appeared on numerous radio and television programs to discuss his findings, Chuck has cataloged an astounding variety of experiences. But apropos of the Spooky Season, you're going to hear about a few that are so terrifying you may never go back into the woods again.

 
 

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CREDITS:

Episode 122: Mysterious Deaths Along the 37th Parallel.  Produced by Scott Philbrook & Forrest Burgess; Audio Editing by Sarah Vorhees Wendel; Ryan McCullough and John Bolen Sound Design; Research Assistance by Tess Pfeifle and the astonishing League of Astonishing Researchers, a.k.a. The Astonishing Research Corps, or "A.R.C." for short. Copyright 2018 Astonishing Legends Productions, LLC. All Rights Reserved.

Ep 116: Small Town Monsters

 
 
 

“At that time, there was an adult crowd that took the whole satanic religion seriously.  Anything from teachers to possible law enforcement people being involved.  Yeah I guess some of their get-togethers from this one location were quite involved.  People would show up from around the world.” 

–  John Fredrickson, former Walworth County, Wisconsin Animal Control Officer, paraphrased from Seth Breedlove’s new film, The Bray Road Beast.

 
 
 

Location: 

Many small towns across America and all over the world have experienced their own unique "monsters" and have claimed them as part of their identity.  

 

Background:

We met filmmaker Seth Breedlove at the Kent Stage for the 2018 Kent Paranormal Weekend symposium, where our first event was a screening of his film, The Mothman of Point Pleasant.  Needless to say, we were very impressed by his documentary on the subject and then later by Seth himself.  After a very pleasant chat in the lobby, we knew we had met a kindred spirit and had to get him on the show to discuss other works by his film production company, Small Town Monsters.  Tonight we discuss Seth's oeuvre of well-researched, fascinating and enjoyable documentaries, covering such topics as the Minerva Monster, the Beast of Whitehall, the Boggy Creek monster, Mothman of Point Pleasant, Invasion on Chestnut Ridge, the Flatwoods Monster, and his latest, The Bray Road Beast, as well as several upcoming projects.  We'll find out what captivates him about each incident and the creatures at their centers, what it was like to actually explore these towns, and what he thinks might be happening with all this High Strangeness.  

 
 

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CREDITS:

Episode 116: Small Town Monsters.  Produced by Scott Philbrook & Forrest Burgess; Audio Editing by Sarah Vorhees Wendel; Ryan McCullough Sound Design; Research Assistance by Tess Pfeifle and the astonishing League of Astonishing Researchers, a.k.a. The Astonishing Research Corps, or "A.R.C." for short. Copyright 2018 Astonishing Legends Productions, LLC. All Rights Reserved.

Ep 95: Imminent Disclosure? Part 2

Possible "AAV" or "Anomalous Aerial Vehicle" – Image from FighterSweep.com article, There I Was: The X-Files Edition by PACO CHIERICI 

 
 
 
“There has been and is an existing presence, an ET presence.  And I spent millions and millions and millions – I probably spent more as an individual than anybody else in the United States has ever spent on this subject.” 
– Robert Bigelow of Bigelow Aerospace and Skinwalker Ranch, on 60 Minutes, May 2017.
 
 
 

Possible location where two Navy F/A-18F Super Hornet pilots on a routine training mission, Cmdr. David Fravor and Lt. Cmdr. Jim Slaight encountered unidentifiable craft that behaved like no known objects.  

 

Background:

How "credible" does an eye-witness have to be before their account of an Unidentified Flying Object is taken seriously?  Whom would you think is the most credible sort of witness for this type of impossible craft, aside from the beings or forces that made them?  How about an elite jet fighter pilot from the US Navy, highly trained to identify every known aerial threat – known to a conventional military, of course.  Tonight, we sit down again for Part Two with our friend Rob Kristofferson, from the Our Strange Skies podcast to discuss in detail the eye-witness report and related consequences of David Fravor, USN Ret., former Commanding Officer of Fighter Squadron VFA-41, who along with his Weapons Systems Officer Lt. Cmdr. Jim Slaight engaged a target that behaved like nothing they could imagine.  After hearing about Fravor's account, you just might start to believe that "Secret Machines" do indeed exist... and your next thought will be, "...well then, who, or what is controlling them?"  Get ready for some "Soft Disclosure" everyone.

 

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Sekret Machines Book 1: Chasing Shadows
By Tom DeLonge, AJ Hartley
 

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Credits:

Episode 95: Imminent Disclosure? Part 2.  Produced by Scott Philbrook & Forrest Burgess; Audio Editing by Sarah Vorhees Wendel; Ryan McCullough Sound Design; Research Assistance by Tess Pfeifle and the astonishing League of Astonishing Researchers, a.k.a. The Astonishing Research Corps, or "A.R.C." for short. Copyright 2018 Astonishing Legends Productions, LLC. All Rights Reserved.

Ep 94: Imminent Disclosure? Part 1

Image from the New York Times article, Glowing Auras and ‘Black Money’: The Pentagon’s Mysterious U.F.O. Program, courtesy of the U.S. Department of Defense, December 16, 2017 

 
 
 
“I’m not embarrassed or ashamed or sorry I got this thing going, I think it’s one of the good things I did in my congressional service.  I’ve done something that no one has done before.” 
– Former US Congressman Harry Reid, who, the day before the New York Times story broke, Tweeted, “The Truth is Out There.”
 
 
 

Possible location where two Navy F/A-18F Super Hornet pilots on a routine training mission, Cmdr. David Fravor and Lt. Cmdr. Jim Slaight encountered unidentifiable craft that behaved like no known objects.  

 

Background:

The term "Disclosure" in the UFO community generally refers to the long-awaited event when the government, specifically the U.S. Government, finally tells the world that UFOs exist, along with everything they know about extraterrestrials, or so enthusiasts of the topic would hope.  While we wouldn't suggest holding your breath until "Full Disclosure" happens, there has been an interesting, recent development worth noting.  On December 16, 2017, the New York Times published a curious article titled, "Glowing Auras and ‘Black Money’: The Pentagon’s Mysterious U.F.O. Program."  Apart from the mild surprise that such a serious publication as the New York Times would bother running with any story that would give consideration to such a "preposterous" idea as UFOs being real, is the bigger surprise that from 2007 until 2012, $22 million dollars of U.S. taxpayer money was spent annually on something called the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program.  Although funding for this program officially ceased in 2012, it was also revealed that the program still exists and continues to investigate credible reports of possible UFO encounters.  Join us tonight as we sit down with friend, collaborator and fellow podcaster Rob Kristofferson, host of his own show called Our Strange Skies as we discuss the significance of a major revelation that there is a serious military effort to investigate what many believe is Science Fiction, but what some "in the know" think may be a threat against which we have no defense.

 
 

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Credits:

Episode 94: Imminent Disclosure? Part 1.  Produced by Scott Philbrook & Forrest Burgess; Audio Editing by Sarah Vorhees Wendel; Ryan McCullough Sound Design; Research Assistance by Tess Pfeifle and the astonishing League of Astonishing Researchers, a.k.a. The Astonishing Research Corps, or "A.R.C." for short. Copyright 2018 Astonishing Legends Productions, LLC. All Rights Reserved.

Ep 81: The Kelly–Hopkinsville Encounter (Part 3)

Detail from Tim Bertelink's Artist Impression of the Kelly-Hopkinsville "goblin."  Image used under CC BY-SA 4.0 license.

"In and around the whole area, the house, the fields, that night, there was a weird feeling.  It was partly uneasiness, but not entirely.  Everyone had it.  There were men there that I'd call brave men, men I've been in dangerous situations with.  They felt it too.  They've told me so."
– Hopkinsville Police Chief, Russell Greenwell

 

 
Approximate location of the Sutton family farmhouse on Old Madisonville Road, in the unincorporated area of Kelly, about 8 miles north of Hopkinsville, KY
 

BACKGROUND:

It's easy to dismiss the entire Kelly-Hopkinsville Encounter as the booze-fueled fantasy of a bunch of backward hicks who can't tell the difference between a goblin and an owl, or maybe you think it was an outrageous hoax perpetrated for cash.  But before you begin telling people what they saw, or make assumptions based on character or class, just remember: unless you were there, you weren't there.  These people didn't ask for this incident to happen to them, and they especially didn't ask for the notoriety or ridicule that followed.  What the authorities at the time believed, and what many skeptics agree on in hindsight, is that the Sutton and Taylor families were genuinely terrified of something real, and yet even the most seasoned paranormal researcher can't definitively say by what or by whom.  So maybe your educated reasoning doesn't allow for the possibility of otherworldly creatures?  Well, that's fine, it's a natural human desire to make sense of the impossibilities of our strange world with rationalizations that we can comfortably live with.  But as you do so, keep one more thing in mind: you can spend years or a whole lifetime developing and refining your rationale for disbelief, but it only takes one undeniable, paranormal experience to make you a believer.

 
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Alien Legacy
By Geraldine Sutton Stith
The Kelly Green Men
By Geraldine Sutton Stith
 

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Credits:

Episode 81: The Kelly-Hopkinsville Incident, Part 3.  Produced by Scott Philbrook & Forrest Burgess; Audio Editing by Sarah Vorhees; Ryan McCullough Sound Design; Research Assistance by Tess Pfeifle and the astonishing League of Astonishing Researchers, a.k.a. The Astonishing Research Corps, or "A.R.C." for short. Copyright 2017 Astonishing Legends Productions, LLC. All Rights Reserved.

Ep 80: The Kelly–Hopkinsville Encounter (Part 2)

"If aliens visit us, the outcome would be much as when Columbus landed in America, which didn't turn out well for the Native Americans."

Stephen Hawking

 
Approximate location of the Sutton family farmhouse on Old Madisonville Road, in the unincorporated area of Kelly, about 8 miles north of Hopkinsville, KY
 

BACKGROUND:

In Part Two of our series on the Kelly-Hopkinsville Encounter, we analyze the elements of the Sutton and Taylor families' story.  Is the tale that ended up in the media what actually happened or were certain descriptions exaggerated to make the story more sensational in order to sell newspapers?  Perhaps some details were misreported due to anxiety, faulty memories and the phenomenon of the "Telephone Game?"  Or was it all a hoax and for what gain?  What we find is that the story in its original and accurate telling is so bizarre, any further embellishment would be pointless and believe it or not, that's the story the families stuck to, which only serves to add more mystery to an already mysterious world.  

 
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By Geraldine Sutton Stith
The Kelly Green Men
By Geraldine Sutton Stith
 

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Credits:

Episode 80: The Kelly-Hopkinsville Incident, Part 2.  Produced by Scott Philbrook & Forrest Burgess; Audio Editing by Sarah Vorhees; Ryan McCullough Sound Design; Research Assistance by Tess Pfeifle and the astonishing League of Astonishing Researchers, a.k.a. The Astonishing Research Corps, or "A.R.C." for short. Copyright 2017 Astonishing Legends Productions, LLC. All Rights Reserved.

Ep 79: The Kelly–Hopkinsville Encounter (Part 1)

"I turned my head three different times because I thought maybe my eyes were fooling me. But every time I turned my head back, there he was."
– Glennie Lankford, Matriarch of the Sutton Farmhouse
 
Approximate location of the Sutton family farmhouse on Old Madisonville Road, in the unincorporated area of Kelly, about 8 miles north of Hopkinsville, KY
 

BACKGROUND:

The 1950s was awash with incredible UFO sightings and purported alien encounters, but the Kelly-Hopkinsville Incident remains a highlight for the field of Ufology.  The report was significant not only because of the long duration of the event and a large number of witnesses but also because the frightening contact sparked a one-sided gun battle.  On the evening of Sunday, August 21, 1955, one of the occupants of the Sutton farmhouse, in the unincorporated area of Kelly north of Hopkinsville, Kentucky, reported seeing a saucer-like craft land a short distance away in a gully to the rear of the property.  Moments later, the two families staying there claimed that a number of "strange little men" approached the house and peered through the windows, and one even tugged the hair of Billy Ray Taylor, the man who had first seen the craft land.  Understandably bewildered and fearing for their lives, Taylor, and another adult male, "Lucky" Sutton, fired round after round at the unwanted visitors from close range, all to little effect.  After about four hours of this awkward alien interaction, the families saw their chance to escape and rushed to police headquarters to get help.  The unusually large police response which resulted in a flurry of sensational news reports for years to come would cast this incident as one of the most bizarre and intriguing "Close Encounters of the Third Kind" ever to be included in UFO lore.

 
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Alien Legacy
By Geraldine Sutton Stith
The Kelly Green Men
By Geraldine Sutton Stith
 

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Credits:

Episode 79: The Kelly-Hopkinsville Incident, Part 1.  Produced by Scott Philbrook & Forrest Burgess; Audio Editing by Sarah Vorhees; Ryan McCullough Sound Design; Research Assistance by Tess Pfeifle and the astonishing League of Astonishing Researchers, a.k.a. The Astonishing Research Corps, or "A.R.C." for short. Copyright 2017 Astonishing Legends Productions, LLC. All Rights Reserved.

Ep 73: Orfeo Angelucci - Secret of the Saucers

“I had the uncomfortable feeling as they studied me that they knew every thought in my mind; everything I'd ever done and a vast amount about me that I didn't even know myself. Intuitively, I sensed that I stood in a kind of spiritual nakedness before them."

– Orfeo Angelucci, The Secret of the Saucers

 
Location: Approximate spot down by the Los Angeles River, where Orfeo Angelucci would have a converstaion with a brotherly extraterrestrial who would later reveal the secret of our planet and what Orfeo and the rest of us must do to ensure a peaceful fate.
 

Background:

Most of us go on about our lives, enjoying the predictable routine of family, work, and if we're lucky, a little bit of leisure.  Usually, nothing too out of the ordinary happens from day to day, and although it may seem dull, we forget it's also comforting.  But if you're Orfeo Angelucci – aerospace worker, family man, thoughtful but average citizen, one day you get contacted by a race of advanced, extraterrestrial beings that reveal to you the secret of the universe, your purpose here, and the task ahead that would change his life forever.  This was the incredible claim in Angelucci's book, The Secret of the Saucers, which tells the story of his contact with a pair of kind, ethereal entities, who want him to share their message of peace and love for the human race.  But these warm greetings came with a warning: that we must change our harmful ways or else suffer the fate of the world that came before us.  Spreading this message caused no small amount of ridicule and hardship for Orfeo and his family, but as the legends tell us, being a messenger to the world can be a blessing but also a curse and the challenge requires courage. Join us tonight as Rich Hatem returns to discuss Angelucci's wondrous story.  Whether you choose to believe Orfeo or dismiss it all as a fanciful daydream, it's hard to deny that the message for Earth has real beauty in its truth.

 
 

Related Books:

The Secret of the Saucers
By Ofreo M. Angelucci
Communion: A True Story
By Whitley Strieber
 

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Episode 73: Orfeo Angelucci – The Secret of the Saucers.  Produced by Scott Philbrook & Forrest Burgess; Audio Editing by Sarah Vorhees; Ryan McCullough Sound Design; Research Assistance by Tess Pfeifle and the astonishing League of Astonishing Researchers, a.k.a. The Astonishing Research Corps, or "A.R.C." for short. Copyright 2017 Astonishing Legends Productions, LLC. All Rights Reserved.