Ep 149: Dan, Susan, Micah Hanks, and Missing Time


“People like us, who believe in physics, know that the distinction between past, present, and future is only a stubbornly persistent illusion.”

– Albert Einstein



As we often say on the show, if you haven't had a strange, paranormal experience, it's likely someone you know has. This happens to be the case with two college friends of Forrest, Dan Povenmire and Susan Lambert. In the mid-1980s, Susan was working as a reporter for the student newspaper of The University of Southern California, The Daily Trojan. She had asked Dan if he wanted to accompany her to an interview with a movie director. They set out on a drive that should only have taken no more than 40 minutes to complete. But upon arriving at the hotel where the director was giving interviews, learned that they were somehow around 3.5 hours late. This seeming impossibility has baffled Dan ever since and fueled a search for answers. But to add to the mystery, this wouldn't be the only unexplainable experience of missing time, as the pair would encounter another episode during a subsequent car ride together. And like with the first trip, each would remember a few odd sights during it that the other didn't recall. While unexplainable disruptions in time are rare, many people have reported experiencing a disturbing wrinkle in the fabric of time which we trust should always be smooth. Just what is going on when something so seemingly fixed and unalterable as the passage of time fluctuates? In the latter portion of the show, writer, field researcher, and podcaster Micah Hanks joins us for a discussion on some possible theories as to what might be happening scientifically with the phenomenon of Missing Time.



The University of Southern California, where Dan and Susan left to conduct an interview for the school newspaper, The Daily Trojan and ended up missing nearly 3.5 hours of time during their car ride.


Related Books:

Communion: A True Story
By Whitley Strieber
Consciousness Explained
By Daniel C. Dennett
A Brief History of Time
By Stephen Hawking

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Episode 149: Dan, Susan, Micah Hanks, and Missing Time.  Produced by Scott Philbrook & Forrest Burgess; Audio Editing by Sarah Vorhees Wendel; Sound Design by Ryan McCullough; Tess Pfeifle, Producer and Lead Researcher; Research Support from the astonishing League of Astonishing Researchers, a.k.a. The Astonishing Research Corps, or "A.R.C." for short. Copyright 2019 Astonishing Legends Productions, LLC. All Rights Reserved.

Ep 73: Orfeo Angelucci - Secret of the Saucers


“I had the uncomfortable feeling as they studied me that they knew every thought in my mind; everything I'd ever done and a vast amount about me that I didn't even know myself. Intuitively, I sensed that I stood in a kind of spiritual nakedness before them."

– Orfeo Angelucci, The Secret of the Saucers


Location: Approximate spot down by the Los Angeles River, where Orfeo Angelucci would have a converstaion with a brotherly extraterrestrial who would later reveal the secret of our planet and what Orfeo and the rest of us must do to ensure a peaceful fate.



Most of us go on about our lives, enjoying the predictable routine of family, work, and if we're lucky, a little bit of leisure.  Usually, nothing too out of the ordinary happens from day to day, and although it may seem dull, we forget it's also comforting.  But if you're Orfeo Angelucci – aerospace worker, family man, thoughtful but average citizen, one day you get contacted by a race of advanced, extraterrestrial beings that reveal to you the secret of the universe, your purpose here, and the task ahead that would change his life forever.  This was the incredible claim in Angelucci's book, The Secret of the Saucers, which tells the story of his contact with a pair of kind, ethereal entities, who want him to share their message of peace and love for the human race.  But these warm greetings came with a warning: that we must change our harmful ways or else suffer the fate of the world that came before us.  Spreading this message caused no small amount of ridicule and hardship for Orfeo and his family, but as the legends tell us, being a messenger to the world can be a blessing but also a curse and the challenge requires courage. Join us tonight as Rich Hatem returns to discuss Angelucci's wondrous story.  Whether you choose to believe Orfeo or dismiss it all as a fanciful daydream, it's hard to deny that the message for Earth has real beauty in its truth.


Related Books:

Communion: A True Story
By Whitley Strieber

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Episode 73: Orfeo Angelucci – The Secret of the Saucers.  Produced by Scott Philbrook & Forrest Burgess; Audio Editing by Sarah Vorhees; Ryan McCullough Sound Design; Research Assistance by Tess Pfeifle and the astonishing League of Astonishing Researchers, a.k.a. The Astonishing Research Corps, or "A.R.C." for short. Copyright 2017 Astonishing Legends Productions, LLC. All Rights Reserved.