Ep 155: Abduction at Devil's Den

 
 

“We have already opened our doors to monsters. They have arrived.”
Terry Lovelace, Esq., from his book: Incident at Devil’s Den: A True Story

 

Background:

The interview you’re about to hear is one of the most compelling, fascinating, and terrifying personal accounts we’ve ever come across. We realize it may also be one of the most controversial subjects we’ve ever discussed. Our guest tonight knows these sensations all too well. The wonder, terror, decades of trauma, and the consequences from coming forward after a lifetime of these experiences are all part of his story. In June of 1977, Terry Lovelace was in the U.S. Air Force working as a medic and EMT while stationed at Whiteman AFB. He and his EMT partner and close friend felt compelled to take a weekend camping to Devil’s Den State Park in Arkansas. What started out as a carefree trip to the great outdoors would end in a night of horror and pain as they encountered a massive unknown craft about five stories tall. This experience would lead to not only nightmares and inexplicable panic attacks for Terry along with an intense investigation by the USAF Office of Special Investigations, but the tragic and premature death of his friend. Terry would go on to a successful career in law as a felony prosecutor, eventually becoming an Assistant Attorney General for the U.S. Territory of American Samoa and a State’s Attorney for Vermont’s Board of Medical Practice. After retirement, a trip to the Emergency Room for a fall in 2012 would bring all those suppressed memories to the surface once again, memories that began in his childhood. The radiologist had discovered an anomalous piece of square metal about the size of a fingernail with two wires attached, just above his right knee. In the calf muscle below, a strange, flower petal-shaped object with the density of bone was also discovered. To add to the mystery, there were no incision marks anywhere to be found. This discovery and the objects’ purpose were enough to convince Terry that it was time to tell his story. He believes we all have a right to know what’s really going on. Some may find his account frightening or at least alarming, while others will dismiss it as fantasy. Many won’t know what to think about it. But consider this: if you don’t believe any of it, then you don’t have to worry, you and your rationale are safe. If you do believe his story, even just some of it, then it may provide a glimpse into one of the biggest mysteries and threats humanity has ever faced.

 
 
 

Location:

The meadow clearing on a slight plateau in Devil’s Den State Park in Arkansas, where Terry Lovelace and his friend “Toby” were abducted in June of 1977

 
 

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CREDITS:

Episode 155: Abduction at Devil’s Den.  Produced by Scott Philbrook & Forrest Burgess; Audio Editing by Sarah Vorhees Wendel; Sound Design by Ryan McCullough; Tess Pfeifle, Producer and Lead Researcher; Research Support from the astonishing League of Astonishing Researchers, a.k.a. The Astonishing Research Corps, or "A.R.C." for short. Copyright 2019 Astonishing Legends Productions, LLC. All Rights Reserved.

Ep 154: Lockdown at the Waverly Hills Sanatorium

 
 

“I do believe in the paranormal, there are things our brains just can’t understand.”
Art Bell, Creator and Host of Coast to Coast AM

 

Background:

Many of us have seen all the ghost hunting shows on cable television and elsewhere, but are those accurate representations of what goes on during a paranormal investigation? After all, TV shows, have to deliver as many instances of spooky "evidence" as possible, because we, the viewing audience, demand it. In reality, like any hunting or fishing expedition, the experience is usually long stretches of waiting patiently and hopefully for brief moments of high excitement. Well, tonight we're going to find out in detail what it's like to actually go on a ghost hunt as we welcome back the previous episode's guest, author and paranormal investigator James A. Willis. We'll also be joined by our good friends Jill and Roger Pingleton, who are seasoned paranormal investigators themselves. On July 22, 2019, during a "lockdown" from 8:00 p.m. to 4:00 a.m. we had the privilege of following along with them as they investigated one of the most notoriously haunted buildings in the United States, if not the world, the Waverly Hills Sanatorium in Louisville, KY. From 1910 to 1961, this massive and formerly abandoned medical facility saw more than its share of misery and death as it served as a treatment hospital for those suffering from the scourge of tuberculosis as it plagued the Louisville and Jefferson County area. The building then witnessed another era of dwindling and death from 1962 to 1982 when it served as Woodhaven Medical Services, a nursing home for the elderly and those with severe mental disabilities. Fortunately, however, this historic edifice has been undergoing restoration since 2001 when it was taken over by caring and dedicated new owners. It's currently open for tours, investigations, and events. Regardless of Waverly Hills' past, the future looks bright for this special place, a special place that's also especially haunted.

 

Check back later for more photos, captions, and videos!

 
 

The Waverly Hills Sanatorium

On the outskirts of Louisville, Kentucky, USA.

 

Blueprint of the 4th Floor layout at Waverly Hills Sanatorium

 

Audio clips from the investigation:

The following audio file is the “groan” that was heard by James and Steph Willis and Roger and Jill Pingleton on the fourth floor of Waverly. The voices that can be heard speaking are first Roger, then Jill, then the groan, then James. It was recorded with the Olympus voice recorder James was wearing on his vest.

 

Below is the audio clip of what sounds like possible laughter heard by Roger Pingleton:

 

Below audio clip of Roger seeing an anomaly in his laser light grid near the ceiling, at the spot where “The Creeper” shadow being is supposed to appear:

 
 
 

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Episode 154: Lockdown at Waverly Sanatorium.  Produced by Scott Philbrook & Forrest Burgess; Audio Editing by Sarah Vorhees Wendel; Sound Design by Ryan McCullough; Tess Pfeifle, Producer and Lead Researcher; Research Support from the astonishing League of Astonishing Researchers, a.k.a. The Astonishing Research Corps, or "A.R.C." for short. Copyright 2019 Astonishing Legends Productions, LLC. All Rights Reserved.

Ep 153: James Willis and the Ghosts of Ohio

 
 

“Ghosts Exist... Ghosts exist to help keep history alive.”

Paranormal Investigator, author and public speaker, James A. Willis from the introduction to his book, Ohio’s Historic Haunts, published in 2015 by the Kent State University Press

 

Background:

The ideal qualities of a paranormal investigator should include objectivity, a grasp of the relevant history and science, and a skeptical and inquisitive nature that’s balanced with a fair and open mind. Tonight’s guest has all of those traits and more. Author and paranormal researcher James A. Willis originally hails from the Hudson Highlands of upstate New York, the stomping grounds of the Headless Horseman of Sleepy Hollow. After spending 15 of his formative years being intrigued by macabre media and all things ghostly, strange and spooky, Willis moved to Ohio to found the nationally recognized research organization, The Ghosts of Ohio. He has since grown the organization to over 35 members, representing the regions anchored by the cities of Columbus, Cleveland, and Cincinnati. In 2004, the founders of the popular line of Weird US books invited Willis to contribute and he has since collaborated on 6 volumes in the series. In 2012, Willis struck out on his own with the publication of Haunted Indiana. For 2013’s The Big Book Of Ohio Ghost Stories, Willis crisscrossed Ohio to bring readers over 75 of the Buckeye state’s most famous (and infamous) ghosts. In 2015, Willis released Ohio’s Historic Haunts: Investigating the Paranormal in the Buckeye State. Willis’ latest project, 2017’s Central Ohio Legends & Lore, had him chasing down some of the Buckeye State’s most legendary characters, including Johnny Appleseed, Annie Oakley, and Chief Leatherlips. Along the way, Willis took the time to explore some of central Ohio’s stranger legends, such as the Ohio Grassman and even UFOs. A sought-after public speaker, Willis has given presentations throughout the United States, during which he has educated and entertained tens of thousands of people of all ages in crowd sizes ranging from 10 to well over 600. He has also been featured in more than 75 media sources, including CNN, USA Today, Columbus Business First, Midwest Living, The Canadian Press, and even the Kuwait Times. Please join us as we hear about James’ approach to paranormal research and delve into some of his most weird and eerie cases.

 
 
 

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Weird Ohio: Your Travel Guide to Ohio's Local Legends and Best Kept Secrets
By Loren Coleman, Andy Henderson, James A Willis
Konstantin Raudive - The Voices of the Dead
By Konstantin Raudive-the Voices of the Dead
 

Audio Clips from James Willis’ investigations:

The “Wendy Laugh”

Notes from James:

**It’s creepier if you listen to the clips in this order**

WL MISSING

Recorded by my digital voice recorder, a Tascam DR-05 (note: this will pick up stray interference from cell phones, etc., which comes across as static. But I have yet to come across any other instance where this did NOT pick up something which I heard “live”), which was sitting on the desk in front of me, facing me.

I was seated in a small office area at a desk with my back to the door, which was approximately three feet behind me. In the next room, which was an open sitting area-type room, was a studio microphone, which was facing towards me. Behind the microphone was another door, which led out into a hallway. Across that hallway was another door, which led into the library’s conference room. At the far end of that conference room was Wendy, who was sitting at the monitor/mixer/computer table, watching and listening to things. All other investigators were at the opposite end of the building in the library itself (as opposed to the office area).

In this clip, you will hear me calmly mention “that was Wendy, laughing in the other room”. In real time, when I heard it, I distinctly heard “Wendy”, although I don’t know why it didn’t dawn on me that 1. It was way too loud for it to be Wendy since she was so far away from me because 2. Wendy doesn’t have a loud, obnoxious laugh like what I heard. But when I heard it, I thought it was Wendy and “marked it” because it was so loud I thought the recording devices around me were going to pick it up.

BTW, the various clicks, pops, and odd noises appear to all be related to me moving in the world’s noisiest chair. There’s also a clock on the wall, which, oddly enough, ended up helping us time out things because we could follow the “beat” of the clock.

WL FULL

Recorded by the studio mic which was behind me. This is the “Wendy laugh” that I heard in real time. The laugh that’s curiously missing from my digital voice recorder.

 

Oliver House Restaurant Investigation:

Raw, unedited audio file

The is a section of audio recorded at the Oliver House, a restaurant. The entire recording was originally “thrown out”, for reasons which will become clear in a bit.

This recording was made while I was setting up the microphones for an investigation. The building was closed and locked up for the evening. I was alone with the exception of the GM, who was female.

The microphone was placed at one end of a long hallway, facing a door to the outside, which was locked. The hallways had doors to offices on either side, all of which were locked.

After turning the microphone on and checking it through the mixer, I realized the mic was placed near an AC vent, which was causing the mic to get “blown out” by the sounds of the blower coming through the vent. We tried moving the mic, but no matter where it was placed in the hallway, it picked up the blower. So I ended up not using a studio mic in that hallway.

To set this clip up, it was taken from the audio that was recorded in that hallway, so you will hear the blower noises throughout. The two voices you will hear and mine and the GM’s and you will hear us briefly between the :05 and :07 mark. She had just flipped a switch and thought that might have turned that one vent off. That’s where my “Uh, no, not really” comes from as I had headphones on and was listening to the mixer. It’s important to note that at the time, neither of us were in the hallway—we were about 20 feet behind the mic, down some stairs, and in another room. So there was no one in the hallway at the time of the recording.

The unexplained noise that’s sort of buried under the blower noise is what sounds like someone whistling…a lot. It starts around the :09 mark and goes through the end of the clip, with particularly loud sections occurring between :32 and :48. It does not appear to be “normal” blower-type whistling that happens when air passes through. This whistling appears to change pitch and tempo.

My only rational explanation was that the restaurant has Muzak or actual music piped in. I don’t recall hearing it at the time and none of the other recordings made during the night have any music in the background. It’s also a bit odd to me that I just hear whistling—no music.

 

Ohio Library Investigation

A description from James about the following audio clip:

3-2 Whispers

This is a section of audio recorded during an investigation at an Ohio library. We were taking a break, which is why there is all the distant talking.

During the time this was recorded, the library had been closed for hours (it was approximately 11:00 pm) and all investigators and librarians present were at or near the front desk on the main floor (we’re the ones you can hear talking in the distance). The microphone that recorded the audio was on the same floor, roughly fifteen feet away and around the corner in the “Local History” room. It was a studio condenser mic, facing away from the front desk area and towards another smaller room.

The “voice” that comes in around :11 remains unexplained as of now, but does not match anyone who was in the building at the time. The library does have high ceilings and the “voice” appears to have an echo, but oddly enough, this “voice” was only recorded by this one microphone.

 

Description of audio clips by James Willis

from the James Thurber House investigation:

J

Taken from microphone #1 (top of stairs)


S

Taken from microphone #2 (bottom of stairs)

F

Taken from microphone #3 (front parlor)

• All three recordings were from the Shure microphones, that were hardwired into the Korg mixer. All three clips are from almost the same exact moment in time—1:15 am.

• For J and S, the creaking noises from roughly :02—:10 may have been the result of the 2 contest winners shifting their weight on the staircase and/or bannister.

• All three microphones picked up the two contest winners having a brief discussion regarding the noises they were hearing (and their belief that it was being caused by the team members (“them”) downstairs. The conversation begins at approximately :19 and consists entirely of the following exchange:

F: “Is that them?”

M: “Yes”.

The “voice anomaly” at approximately :17 does fall within the range of a human voice, but does not match the voice pattern of anyone else in the building at the time. Both contest winners said they heard “you guys talking”, but could not make out what we were saying. None of the team members or the Thurber House employee heard the “voice” at the time it was recorded.

Roughly the spot James Thurber was standing in when he heard the footsteps in The Night The Ghost Got In (bathroom is behind the photographer at the top of the stairs—walking straight up the stairs and continuing straight puts you in the bathroom).  This pic shows roughly where microphone that recorded J was (mic was a further back and close to the bathroom door to allow people to go up and down the stairs. Two contest winners were also positioned here at the time the noises were recorded.  Approximate location of microphone that recorded S is the potted plant at the bottom of the stairs.  To the right of the potted plant are two additional steps, which end in the dining room, where Thurber heard the footsteps coming from.  DVR camera, which was positioned immediately behind the microphone that recorded J shows no one on the staircase at the time the footsteps/door/unknown voice were recorded—one contest winner was at the top landing while the other was slightly down the hallway to the right of the bannister that’s on the right side of this photo).  DVR camera positioned in the dining room and looking towards the bottom of the staircase shows there was no one in the dining room at the time the footsteps/door/unknown voice were recorded.

Roughly the spot James Thurber was standing in when he heard the footsteps in The Night The Ghost Got In (bathroom is behind the photographer at the top of the stairs—walking straight up the stairs and continuing straight puts you in the bathroom).

This pic shows roughly where microphone that recorded J was (mic was a further back and close to the bathroom door to allow people to go up and down the stairs. Two contest winners were also positioned here at the time the noises were recorded.

Approximate location of microphone that recorded S is the potted plant at the bottom of the stairs.

To the right of the potted plant are two additional steps, which end in the dining room, where Thurber heard the footsteps coming from.

DVR camera, which was positioned immediately behind the microphone that recorded J shows no one on the staircase at the time the footsteps/door/unknown voice were recorded—one contest winner was at the top landing while the other was slightly down the hallway to the right of the bannister that’s on the right side of this photo).

DVR camera positioned in the dining room and looking towards the bottom of the staircase shows there was no one in the dining room at the time the footsteps/door/unknown voice were recorded.

Where everyone in the house (with the exception of the 2 contest winners) were positioned when the audio was recorded. DVR monitor, mixer, etc., were on the table, facing the fireplace.  Team members and Thurber House employee were all positioned between the fireplace and table, watching and listening. All reported hearing the contest winners talking, but not the footsteps/door/unknown voice.  For reference, the dining room is through the door at the top of the photo. Going through the door and turning immediately to the right will have you looking directly at the bottom of the staircase and the potted plant in “Top of Staircase” reference photo.    This photo was taken from the doorway to the front parlor, where the microphone that recorded F was positioned, as well as one of the DVR cameras.

Where everyone in the house (with the exception of the 2 contest winners) were positioned when the audio was recorded. DVR monitor, mixer, etc., were on the table, facing the fireplace.

Team members and Thurber House employee were all positioned between the fireplace and table, watching and listening. All reported hearing the contest winners talking, but not the footsteps/door/unknown voice.

For reference, the dining room is through the door at the top of the photo. Going through the door and turning immediately to the right will have you looking directly at the bottom of the staircase and the potted plant in “Top of Staircase” reference photo.

This photo was taken from the doorway to the front parlor, where the microphone that recorded F was positioned, as well as one of the DVR cameras.

Microphone that recorded F was positioned to the left of this photo, to the left of the chair and near the open doorway that led into the room where the Command Center was set up.  REM Pod that begins beeping was sitting on the table in the middle of the room (amongst the tea set).  Team members and Thurber House employee reported hearing the REM Pod, but not the footsteps/door/unknown voice.  This microphone was also the closest to the team members and Thurber House employee, so it stands to reason that if any of those noises were the result of those people, it would have been the loudest on this microphone.  DVR camera, which was positioned immediately behind the microphone that recorded F shows no one in the room at the time the footsteps/door/unknown voice were recorded.

Microphone that recorded F was positioned to the left of this photo, to the left of the chair and near the open doorway that led into the room where the Command Center was set up.

REM Pod that begins beeping was sitting on the table in the middle of the room (amongst the tea set).

Team members and Thurber House employee reported hearing the REM Pod, but not the footsteps/door/unknown voice.

This microphone was also the closest to the team members and Thurber House employee, so it stands to reason that if any of those noises were the result of those people, it would have been the loudest on this microphone.

DVR camera, which was positioned immediately behind the microphone that recorded F shows no one in the room at the time the footsteps/door/unknown voice were recorded.


 

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Ep 152: The Voynich Manuscript Part 2

Undated photograph of Wilfrid Voynich, about 48 years old, by F. Hollyer. From the Beinecke Rare Book & Manuscript Digital Collection.

 
 

We all want to know what the Voynich means, but most would-be interpreters begin with their own preconceptions, and their attempts to demystify the medieval past only serve to mystify it further, making the Voynich into a telling avatar of our vexed relationship with the past.

Paraphrased from an August 14, 2019 Washington Post Article entitled “Why do people keep convincing themselves they’ve solved this medieval mystery?” by Lisa Fagin Davis, Executive Director of the Medieval Academy of America

 

Background:

Since its modern discovery, no other medieval manuscript has seen as much media attention or scholarly scrutiny as the Voynich Manuscript. No doubt this is due to the fantastical strangeness of its mystery, which is also the same reason it continually captures the imagination of the public. Because it would seem, the bigger the mystery, the bigger the reward for its solving. Like with any enduring enigma, the manuscript has attracted its share of sleuths who have claimed they've been the ones to at least gain an insight into a solution. Their confidence may be due to another mystical property of the manuscript. If one looks hard enough for evidence to make their preconceived hypothesis work, they will find some within its pages. However, why such interest and debate over this old book? Other than as a specimen of 600-year-old "folk art," what is the worth of a book no one can read? Because the Voynich Manuscript still holds the promise of revealing secret knowledge that could help humanity, and it has always been extremely satisfying to discover that which has been lost.

 
 
 

Location:

Villa Mondragone in an area called, from its many castles and villas, Castelli Romani about 12 miles (20 km) southeast of Rome, near the ancient town of Tusculum, where rare book and antiques dealer Wilfrid Voynich purchased the mysterious manuscript named after him, from a trunk reportedly once belonging to Athanasius Kircher.

 

Reference Links:

 

Related Books:

The Voynich Manuscript
Yale University Press
Codex Seraphinianus
By Luigi Serafini
 

Fire Protection specialist Greg Schmitz dispels some myths about Halon fire suppression:

Hi guys, 

Love the show! I was listening to your most recent episode about the Voynich Manuscript when I heard a couple common myths repeated regarding fire suppression systems. I’m a senior fire protection technician for a Los Angeles based company with 12 years experience, and a lot of people have similar misconceptions about fire suppression systems. 

I’m glad that the library has a clean agent system installed to protect these priceless artifacts, but there’s no need to worry about life safety issues from these systems. They are expertly designed, have an excellent safety record, and when maintained properly, are there to protect property while also being safe for humans working in the area. 

Myth #1: Halon 1301 is toxic. 

While CO2 systems are designed for normally unoccupied spaces and use an agent concentration of around 45% (10% is immediately dangerous to human life), halon 1301 (bromotrifluoromethane) systems use around 5% for class A fires (paper, cloth, wood, etc.). Halon 1301 is lethal at around an 83% concentration in pure form, and around 14% once exposed to flame, as it breaks down into hydrogen bromide, hydrogen fluoride, and free halogens. However, these are extremely irritating and will make you want to get away quickly. These stats reflect use on class B (liquids) test fires, though, a class A fire in the incipient stage from burning documents would produce much less thermal decomposition byproducts, as they are smoldering, smokey fires which would set off the smoke detection and activate the suppression system quickly. That’s if a conservationist or librarian didn’t use a portable extinguisher first, which would likely be distilled water mist (safe) or another clean agent which would have similar properties to 1301 but are slightly more toxic (very safe, no worse than 1301.) At any rate, it’s safe to breathe the percentage of agent discharged to extinguish fire for 4-5 minutes, which gives plenty of time to escape. CO2 would prove lethal under the same circumstances. Keep in mind that the U.S. armed forces and NASA have used 1301 for years in spaces that can’t be evacuated or ventilated, like spacecraft and armored fighting vehicles in combat. 

Inergen was also mentioned. Inergen is similar in application to halon 1301, but is an inert gas mixture of nitrogen, argon, and CO2 proprietary to Ansul. It doesn’t create thermal decomposition byproducts like 1301, and is safe to breathe for around 4-5 minutes at the design concentration of around 35-40%. It starts becoming dangerous at 62% so there is about a 20% safety margin. With either of these products, evacuating ASAP is ideal, as it would be during any fire event anyway. Having both of these systems installed concurrently covering the same area would be unusual, but given the nature of the hazard, theoretically possible with approval from the authority having jurisdiction (fire inspector). 

Myth #2: Halon 1301 removes or “sucks all the oxygen out of the room.”

Again, it’s being confused with CO2. CO2 displaces oxygen, effectively smothering the fire. Halon 1301 works by interrupting the chemical chain reaction required for fire to sustain itself and grow. (The bromine in the compound is responsible for both its high effectiveness on fire, as well as its negative impact on the ozone layer.) Inergen does work by smothering, but retains a higher safety margin than CO2 and can therefore be used in normally occupied spaces. 

Myth#3: Halon is used in kitchens. 

Nope, and never was. CO2 was used in kitchen suppression systems early on, as was dry chemical but these offer no fuel securement. Once the gas or powder cloud dissipates, the fire could restart if the fuel remains hot or an external ignition source remains. Halon would offer similar limitations. The systems designs are also different. Kitchen systems are local application only, they apply agent to a specified area, i.e. appliances, duct, and plenum, whereas halon 1301 systems are total flooding. These systems fill an entire room up to the specified design concentration and hold it for a specified time period. The room must be relatively gas tight to hold the agent concentration, which commercial kitchens are not. They are open floor plan with massive ventilation fans, not suited at all for holding extinguishing gas. Modern kitchens use water-based wet chemical, which discharges as a spray and works through cooling and saponification to extinguish grease fires and keep them out. It’s a non-toxic mixture of water and potassium salts. 

Thanks for listening to my rant and keep up the great work! 

Sincerely, 

Greg Schmitz 

Frontier Fire Protection

 

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Episode 152: The Voynich Manuscript Part 2.  Produced by Scott Philbrook & Forrest Burgess; Audio Editing by Sarah Vorhees Wendel; Sound Design by Ryan McCullough; Tess Pfeifle, Producer and Lead Researcher; Research Support from the astonishing League of Astonishing Researchers, a.k.a. The Astonishing Research Corps, or "A.R.C." for short. Copyright 2019 Astonishing Legends Productions, LLC. All Rights Reserved.

Ep 151: The Voynich Manuscript Part 1

 
 

“Well certainly the Voynich Manuscript is the ‘limit text’ of Western occultism. No one can read it. It is truly an occult book.”

– The late ethnobotanist, mystic, psychonaut, lecturer and author, Terence McKenna

 

Background:

At the Beinecke Rare Book and Manuscript Library at Yale University, there is a book with the catalog call number, MS 408. It is one of the most examined and researched manuscripts to date because it is one of the most enigmatic documents ever discovered. It was purchased in 1912 at Villa Mondragone in Italy by an antiquities dealer named Wilfrid Voynich, and since there is no discernible title for the book, it is more commonly known as the Voynich Manuscript. The text is written on around 240 pages of vellum and is comprised of over 170,000 characters in the form of a code that no cryptographer has yet been able to decipher from a known language. Equally puzzling are the illustrations which accompany the writing. Most seem to be botanical in content but mostly show no identifiable plants. Along with the drawings of strange flora are diagrams of astrological charts and primitive caricatures of nude women in ceremonial displays. However, is the purpose of this manual merely medicinal or could its secrets be of a more magical instruction? And who could be the author of such a baffling work, one who thought its knowledge was so precious or dangerous enough that it needed to remain secret to all but the truly enlightened, or only to themselves? Until a solution to the Voynich Manuscript is found, it contends for the title of the most mysterious book in the world.

 
 
 

Location:

Villa Mondragone in an area called, from its many castles and villas, Castelli Romani about 12 miles (20 km) southeast of Rome, near the ancient town of Tusculum, where rare book and antiques dealer Wilfrid Voynich purchased the mysterious manuscript named after him, from a trunk reportedly once belonging to Athanasius Kircher.

 
 
The Voynich Manuscript
Yale University Press
 

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Episode 151: The Voynich Manuscript Part 1.  Produced by Scott Philbrook & Forrest Burgess; Audio Editing by Sarah Vorhees Wendel; Sound Design by Ryan McCullough; Tess Pfeifle, Producer and Lead Researcher; Research Support from the astonishing League of Astonishing Researchers, a.k.a. The Astonishing Research Corps, or "A.R.C." for short. Copyright 2019 Astonishing Legends Productions, LLC. All Rights Reserved.

Ep 150: Jim Perry of the Euphomet Podcast

 
 

“We are in search of the other side... the thing under your bed... that signal of unknown origin... and the true stories behind the strange phenomena that are outside the sphere of popular consciousness.”

Jim Perry

 

Background:

Podcasters share a special bond, and this is especially true of those engaged with the pursuit of covering stories about the paranormal and unimaginable phenomena. It is perhaps because we know our pursuit of the truth behind these ineffable events will take us beyond the fringes of belief and acceptance. It leaves us and our subjects vulnerable. But those that manage to tell these stories well have also managed to capture and relay the vulnerability and humanity and behind them. Because without it, there is little context to our own lives and therefore little empathy or meaning, and they may well remain as nothing but improbable tales. One such storyteller is tonight’s guest, Jim Perry. Jim and his critically acclaimed audio documentary podcast Euphomet, have explored the strange and our relationship to it. The result is an intimate and fascinating look at how these encounters affect us on a personal level. Tonight we talk with Jim about the stories and his own experiences that have shaped his perspective and his show.

 
 
 

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Episode 150: Jim Perry of the Euphomet Podcast.  Produced by Scott Philbrook & Forrest Burgess; Audio Editing by Sarah Vorhees Wendel; Sound Design by Ryan McCullough; Tess Pfeifle, Producer and Lead Researcher; Research Support from the astonishing League of Astonishing Researchers, a.k.a. The Astonishing Research Corps, or "A.R.C." for short. Copyright 2019 Astonishing Legends Productions, LLC. All Rights Reserved.

Ep 149: Dan, Susan, Micah Hanks, and Missing Time

 
 

“People like us, who believe in physics, know that the distinction between past, present, and future is only a stubbornly persistent illusion.”

– Albert Einstein

 

Background:

As we often say on the show, if you haven't had a strange, paranormal experience, it's likely someone you know has. This happens to be the case with two college friends of Forrest, Dan Povenmire and Susan Lambert. In the mid-1980s, Susan was working as a reporter for the student newspaper of The University of Southern California, The Daily Trojan. She had asked Dan if he wanted to accompany her to an interview with a movie director. They set out on a drive that should only have taken no more than 40 minutes to complete. But upon arriving at the hotel where the director was giving interviews, learned that they were somehow around 3.5 hours late. This seeming impossibility has baffled Dan ever since and fueled a search for answers. But to add to the mystery, this wouldn't be the only unexplainable experience of missing time, as the pair would encounter another episode during a subsequent car ride together. And like with the first trip, each would remember a few odd sights during it that the other didn't recall. While unexplainable disruptions in time are rare, many people have reported experiencing a disturbing wrinkle in the fabric of time which we trust should always be smooth. Just what is going on when something so seemingly fixed and unalterable as the passage of time fluctuates? In the latter portion of the show, writer, field researcher, and podcaster Micah Hanks joins us for a discussion on some possible theories as to what might be happening scientifically with the phenomenon of Missing Time.

 
 

Location:

The University of Southern California, where Dan and Susan left to conduct an interview for the school newspaper, The Daily Trojan and ended up missing nearly 3.5 hours of time during their car ride.

 
 
 

Related Books:

Communion: A True Story
By Whitley Strieber
Consciousness Explained
By Daniel C. Dennett
A Brief History of Time
By Stephen Hawking
 

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Episode 149: Dan, Susan, Micah Hanks, and Missing Time.  Produced by Scott Philbrook & Forrest Burgess; Audio Editing by Sarah Vorhees Wendel; Sound Design by Ryan McCullough; Tess Pfeifle, Producer and Lead Researcher; Research Support from the astonishing League of Astonishing Researchers, a.k.a. The Astonishing Research Corps, or "A.R.C." for short. Copyright 2019 Astonishing Legends Productions, LLC. All Rights Reserved.

Ep 148: Blood Báthory Part 2

Above image: A likeness of Elizabeth Báthory created from her physical description found in historical records. Historical Mixed Media Figure of Elizabeth Báthory produced by artist/historian George S. Stuart and photographed by Peter d'Aprix, from the George S. Stuart Gallery of Historical Figures® archive (http://www.galleryhistoricalfigures.com). Used by CC BY-SA 3.0

 
 

“See my hands, how cold they are?” “It is nothing, my Lady,” the guards assured her. “Will you not now retire for the night?” The next morning, August 25, 1614, hearing no movement, the guards entered her chamber and found her lying on the floor with her feet supported by a pillow. She was dead.

Paraphrased from Tony Thorne’s book Countess Dracula, from Bloomsbury Publishing.

 

Background:

We love to hate our villains as much as we love to love our heroes. And many of us have a morbid fascination with some of history's most sinister characters, perhaps as a means of understanding the darkest aspects of human behavior. But as is regularly the case, the truth behind the real nature and actions of historical figures we can only glean from the reporting of others in that age and often many years after. Even official accounts are just a widely agreed upon set of assessments by a group of people, each with their own biases and personal opinions. In other words, one person's villain can be another's hero, or at least grossly misunderstood. In the case of Elizabeth Báthory, the authorities finally took action against one of their own, leveling upon her a judgment that could appear both lenient and harsh, but in either case, revealing an investigation that would forever brand her as one of the evilest people in antiquity with her name living on in infamy. Whether or not the testimony against her had any truth to it at all or what the real motivation for her incarceration was, is still debated by historians and researchers. What is clear is that misery, violence, and torture were part of the norm for her time. Some would argue that the stories about her were exaggerations, and her deeds merely accepted practice by the aristocracy of the day. But does normalcy justify a person's acts of any era? Where is the unacceptable line of behavior, regardless of the epoch or social status? History has judged Elizabeth Báthory. How will you?

 
 

Location:

Čachtice Castle (pronounced Chack-teet-seh or Chack-teet-ski in Slovak) where Elizabeth Báthory lived and carried out most of her alleged crimes, until she was reportedly bricked up in a few of its rooms until her death in 1614. First built in the mid-13th century, the castle had undergone several periods of transformation and renovation until it was captured in 1708 in an uprising against the Habsburgs by the Hungarian rebels of Francis II Rákóczi , theorized to be the father of The Count of St. Germain. Today, the castle ruins are a tourist attraction in present-day Slovakia.

 
 

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Episode 148: Blood Báthory Part 2.  Produced by Scott Philbrook & Forrest Burgess; Audio Editing by Sarah Vorhees Wendel; Sound Design by Ryan McCullough; Tess Pfeifle, Producer and Lead Researcher; Research Support from the astonishing League of Astonishing Researchers, a.k.a. The Astonishing Research Corps, or "A.R.C." for short. Copyright 2019 Astonishing Legends Productions, LLC. All Rights Reserved.

Ep 147: Blood Báthory Part 1

 
 

“I hesitate to bring the horrible crime to light, for I hardly believe that anyone will credit what I have uncovered, not only because it bloodily besmirches and brings disgrace upon the princely Báthorys who are deserving of the best from the Christians of this country, but because, moreover, the barbarity of it is so enormous, it will be a cause of eternal horror.”

– Jesuit Priest László Turóczi, as quoted by author Tony Thorne in his book, Countess Dracula

 

Background:

Countess Elizabeth Báthory was a Hungarian noblewoman and one of the most wealthy and powerful aristocrats in eastern Europe during the late 16th and early 17th centuries. Together with her husband Ferenc Nádasdy, a military hero known as the Black Knight of Hungary, Báthory held numerous estates, lands, and villages. She also currently holds the Guinness World Record for being the most prolific female serial killer and most prolific murderer of the western world. Báthory had been accused in the testimonies of over 300 witnesses and survivors of some of the most horrific tortures and murders imaginable before she was arrested, even by medieval standards. Her victims were her maidservants and lesser noble protégés, all girls, with some as young as ten years old. Years after her death, a legend had formed that Báthory had even routinely bathed in and possibly drank the blood of her virginal victims, believing that the pureblood had retained her beauty. Some claim that Báthory's story became the partial inspiration for Bram Stoker's Dracula, along with her more famous sanguinary neighbor, Vlad the Impaler. But were any of the accusations against Báthory true? Was she merely a victim herself of a political and gender-biased conspiracy aimed at confiscating her riches and properties? As we'll learn once again, the truth behind our legends is often shrouded in a fog of conjecture misting through a forest of unknowns. Join us tonight as we examine the case of Elizabeth Báthory who, regardless of her actual guilt or innocence, will be forever known as, "The Blood Countess."

 
 

Location:

Čachtice Castle (pronounced Chack-teet-seh or Chack-teet-ski in Slovak) where Elizabeth Báthory lived and carried out most of her alleged crimes, until she was reportedly bricked up in a few of its rooms until her death in 1614. First built in the mid-13th century, the castle had undergone several periods of transformation and renovation until it was captured in 1708 in an uprising against the Habsburgs by the Hungarian rebels of Francis II Rákóczi , theorized to be the father of The Count of St. Germain. Today, the castle ruins are a tourist attraction in present-day Slovakia.

 
 
 

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Episode 147: Blood Báthory Part 1.  Produced by Scott Philbrook & Forrest Burgess; Audio Editing by Sarah Vorhees Wendel; Sound Design by Ryan McCullough; Tess Pfeifle, Producer and Lead Researcher; Research Support from the astonishing League of Astonishing Researchers, a.k.a. The Astonishing Research Corps, or "A.R.C." for short. Copyright 2019 Astonishing Legends Productions, LLC. All Rights Reserved.

Ep 146: Lyle Blackburn – Cryptid Hunter

 
 

“When I was sitting in the car, I saw him from the neck down. He was outside the driver’s side window. After about two yards, he jumped on the roof. I saw hands, rough-looking black finger-nailed hands, sticking down from the windshield!”

– Chris Davis’ account of his encounter with the Lizard Man, from Lyle Blackburn’s book by the same name

 

Background:

To really study the paranormal, any good researcher will tell you one must get out in the field to investigate the sightings, and that is especially true when it comes to cryptozoology. This is precisely what our interview guest has done. Lyle Blackburn is a full-time author, musician, and cryptid researcher from Texas, whose life-long fascination with legendary creatures has led him to write several acclaimed books, including Momo: The Strange Case of the Missouri Monster, The Beast of Boggy Creek, and Lizard Man. Lyle is a frequent guest on radio programs such as Coast to Coast AM and has been featured on numerous television shows like Monsters and Mysteries in America, Finding Bigfoot, and Strange Evidence, as well as other programs airing on the Animal Planet, Destination America, Discovery Science, and A&E channels. In addition, Lyle is a regular contributor for the monthly horror magazine, Rue Morgue. Lyle can also be heard as the frontman for his rock band Ghoultown, along with narrating/producing several Small Town Monsters documentaries, including Terror in the Skies, Boggy Creek Monster, The Mothman of Point Pleasant, and Bray Road Beast. When he’s not chasing cryptids and writing about them or performing with his band, Lyle can be found speaking at various cryptozoology conferences and horror conventions around the United States. Tonight, we sit down with Lyle to discuss his books and his thoughts about some of the most chilling encounters with bizarre and frightening creatures ever reported.

 
 

Location:

Louisiana, Missouri, where a large, long-haired, man-like creature since known as “Momo” was spotted on multiple occasions by local residents.

 
 
 
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Episode 146: Lyle Blackburn – Cryptid Hunter.  Produced by Scott Philbrook & Forrest Burgess; Audio Editing by Sarah Vorhees Wendel; Sound Design by Ryan McCullough; Tess Pfeifle, Producer and Lead Researcher; Research Support from the astonishing League of Astonishing Researchers, a.k.a. The Astonishing Research Corps, or "A.R.C." for short. Copyright 2019 Astonishing Legends Productions, LLC. All Rights Reserved.