Cryptid

Ep 140: The Patterson-Gimlin Film Part 2

Above Image: Roger Patterson comparing his foot against a plaster casting he took at the Bluff Creek, CA site

 
 

“Whether we like it or not he is here with us on this planet, today, in the 20th century. A creature of enormous historical significance. A ghost from a long-dead day that should whet the imagination of the young at heart, the adventurer and the eternal individualist.”

Roger Patterson, from his book, “Do Abominable Snowmen of America Really Exist?”

 

Background:

What if you had spent years searching for something elusive, something you believe existed that most didn't, and then one day you finally happened to capture it on film? What would be your immediate next steps if you wanted to present it to the world? In the days before instant media uploads to the internet, where would you take the film and who would you show it to first if you wanted to be taken seriously? Roger Patterson had thought he and Bob Gimlin had captured irrefutable proof of Bigfoot, next to bringing the beast itself out of the woods. Little could he realize that every action and claim going forward from that moment of filming would be analyzed and criticized for the rest of his life, in addition to his integrity. Whether out to prove authenticity or a perpetrate a hoax, in either case, the reaction to the film was predictable. From the few scientists who bothered to look, to the curious public, some believed, some scoffed, some didn't know what to think. What we know now from Patterson and Gimlin's story, is that indirect evidence is not enough for most, you need to produce a body, but even then there are those who will refuse to believe. What we also know is that for Patterson, and in turn Gimlin, providing this film as evidence turned out to be much more trouble than a benefit and much more than they bargained for. Realizing what these men went through, if you were to one-day capture extraordinary evidence, would you think twice about sharing it?

 
 

Location:

Researchers have re-located the site where Roger Patterson and Bob Gimlin had their encounter with “Patty” the Sasquatch, on the banks of Bluff Creek around 1:30 p.m. on Friday, October 20, 1967. Bluff Creek is a tributary of the Klamath River, about 25 logging-road miles northwest of the town of Orleans, in Del Norte County California. GPS coordinates provided by BIGFOOT’S bLOG website.

 
 
 

Related Books:

The Bigfoot Film Controversy
By Roger Patterson, Christopher L. Murphy
When Roger Met Patty
By William Munns
The Making of Bigfoot: The Inside Story
By Greg Long, Kal K. Korff
Sasquatch Science: Searching for Bigfoot LIVE 2 DVD Set
Starring D. Jeffrey Meldrum, John A. Bningernagel, Gordon Strasenburgh, John Green
 

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CREDITS:

Episode 140: The Patterson-Gimlin Film Part 2.  Produced by Scott Philbrook & Forrest Burgess; Audio Editing by Sarah Vorhees Wendel; Sound Design by Ryan McCullough; Tess Pfeifle, Producer and Lead Researcher; Research Support from the astonishing League of Astonishing Researchers, a.k.a. The Astonishing Research Corps, or "A.R.C." for short. Copyright 2019 Astonishing Legends Productions, LLC. All Rights Reserved.

Ep 139: The Patterson-Gimlin Film Part 1

 
 

To the young at heart who seldom say “impossible.”

To the adventurer who doesn’t stop at the foothills, but penetrates deep into the forest.

To the individualist who has enough fortitude to stand up for what he thinks is right.

To all of those who seek the truth no matter what the cost.

– Roger Patterson, from the dedication his book, Do Abominable Snowmen of America Really Exist?

 

Background:

Skeptics and believers alike will always demand proof of paranormal claims. But what happens when extraordinary and therefore controversial evidence is offered? When it comes to one of the most popular and enduring legends of a cryptid, that of North America's Bigfoot or Sasquatch, we have an answer. On October 20, 1967, Roger Patterson and Bob Gimlin were about ten days into a horseback trip near Bluff Creek, northwest of Orleans, CA. Patterson had heard of Bigfoot activity in the area and hoped to film some evidence with a 16mm motion picture camera. Around 1:30 p.m. that day, Patterson got his wish, and much more than he bargained for in the long run. As the pair rode around an upturned tree stump, they suddenly spotted what appeared to be a massive, ape-like beast quickly walking away from them. As Patterson struggled to free himself from his startled and fallen horse, he managed to start filming while running towards it, capturing almost one minute of an unexplainable creature who has since been affectionately nicknamed "Patty." What resulted was a film clip that has been scrutinized nearly as much as the Zapruder film and became the iconic image of what the public envisions when they think of Bigfoot. Attempts have been made to call into question Patterson's character and in turn, the likelihood that he would perpetrate a hoax of this encounter. But this tactic doesn't address the heart of the matter and answer the question, just what is that creature on the film? The Patterson-Gimlin film has never been satisfactorily debunked, which is why it is still hotly debated to this day. There are only two logical conclusions about the film itself: either it remains one of the greatest hoaxes of all time, or the film actually captured a Bigfoot.

 
 

Location:

Researchers have re-located the site where Roger Patterson and Bob Gimlin had their encounter with “Patty” the Sasquatch, on the banks of Bluff Creek around 1:30 p.m. on Friday, October 20, 1967. Bluff Creek is a tributary of the Klamath River, about 25 logging-road miles northwest of the town of Orleans, in Del Norte County California. GPS coordinates provided by BIGFOOT’S bLOG website.

 
 
 

Related Books:

The Bigfoot Film Controversy
By Roger Patterson, Christopher L. Murphy
When Roger Met Patty
By William Munns
The Making of Bigfoot: The Inside Story
By Greg Long, Kal K. Korff
 

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CREDITS:

Episode 139: The Patterson-Gimlin Film Part 1.  Produced by Scott Philbrook & Forrest Burgess; Audio Editing by Sarah Vorhees Wendel; Sound Design by Ryan McCullough; Tess Pfeifle, Producer and Lead Researcher; Research Support from the astonishing League of Astonishing Researchers, a.k.a. The Astonishing Research Corps, or "A.R.C." for short. Copyright 2019 Astonishing Legends Productions, LLC. All Rights Reserved.

Ep 116: Small Town Monsters

 
 
 

“At that time, there was an adult crowd that took the whole satanic religion seriously.  Anything from teachers to possible law enforcement people being involved.  Yeah I guess some of their get-togethers from this one location were quite involved.  People would show up from around the world.” 

–  John Fredrickson, former Walworth County, Wisconsin Animal Control Officer, paraphrased from Seth Breedlove’s new film, The Bray Road Beast.

 
 
 

Location: 

Many small towns across America and all over the world have experienced their own unique "monsters" and have claimed them as part of their identity.  

 

Background:

We met filmmaker Seth Breedlove at the Kent Stage for the 2018 Kent Paranormal Weekend symposium, where our first event was a screening of his film, The Mothman of Point Pleasant.  Needless to say, we were very impressed by his documentary on the subject and then later by Seth himself.  After a very pleasant chat in the lobby, we knew we had met a kindred spirit and had to get him on the show to discuss other works by his film production company, Small Town Monsters.  Tonight we discuss Seth's oeuvre of well-researched, fascinating and enjoyable documentaries, covering such topics as the Minerva Monster, the Beast of Whitehall, the Boggy Creek monster, Mothman of Point Pleasant, Invasion on Chestnut Ridge, the Flatwoods Monster, and his latest, The Bray Road Beast, as well as several upcoming projects.  We'll find out what captivates him about each incident and the creatures at their centers, what it was like to actually explore these towns, and what he thinks might be happening with all this High Strangeness.  

 
 

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CREDITS:

Episode 116: Small Town Monsters.  Produced by Scott Philbrook & Forrest Burgess; Audio Editing by Sarah Vorhees Wendel; Ryan McCullough Sound Design; Research Assistance by Tess Pfeifle and the astonishing League of Astonishing Researchers, a.k.a. The Astonishing Research Corps, or "A.R.C." for short. Copyright 2018 Astonishing Legends Productions, LLC. All Rights Reserved.

Ep 75: The Jersey Devil - Prince of the Pine Barrens (Part 2)

“When the horses heard the Devil scream, they’d carry on so you’d think they were gonna tear the barn down. You could hear the Devil scream a long way off when the horses would quiet down. People may say there’s nothing to it but I know darned well there is.”

– Amanda Sutts’ 1900 eyewitness account from Loren Coleman and Bruce G. Hallenbeck’s book, Monsters of New Jersey: Mysterious Creatures in the Garden State

 
Location: Bucks County, Pennsylvania.  The Jersey Devil's territory isn't just confined to the coastal region of New Jersey's Pine Barrens.  Long before the "Leeds Devil" story became part of the local lore in the mid-18th century, the Native Americans of the Leni Lenape tribe had noted a strange creature in the area and named the nearby creek "Popuessing" meaning, "Place of the dragon."  Also according to Loren Coleman and Bruce Hallenbeck in their book, Monsters of New Jersey: Mysterious Creatures in the Garden State, in 1677, Swedish explorers found strange footprints in the rocks near the same creek and renamed it "Drake Kill" – "drake" also meaning dragon.
 

Background: 

Southern New Jersey is steeped in the legend of The Jersey Devil, with the eponymous rascal inspiring everything from the names of businesses to stickers and T-shirts for tourists.  But as one "South Jersey" native has informed us, The Pine Barrens themselves may be nothing like what outsiders envision, with most of it being "lush, green and beautiful" and a joy to explore.  Also, maybe almost no one from the area believes the myth themselves.  However, it seems in the case of the legend of Jersey Devil – there are two distinct yet connected phenomenal elements at play: the ye olde myth, and the otherworldly thing that more than a few people swear they've encountered.  So what do you say to them?  Are you sure all they saw or heard was an owl, a stray African bat, a mutant goat havin' a laugh, or that good ol' well-worn chestnut the Sandhill Crane?  Because now these accounts become much like any other testimony of the paranormal; those who have not experienced it probably won't believe it, but those that have can never forget it.

 
 

Reference Links:

 

 

Related Books:

The Jersey Devil
By James F McCloy, Ray Miller Jr.
The Jersey Devil
By Hunter Shea
Phantom of the Pines: More Tales of the Jersey Devil
By James F. McCloy, Ray, Jr. Miller
The Flight of Dragons
By Peter Dickinson
 

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Credits:

Episode 75: The Jersey Devil – Prince of the Pine Barrens (Part 2).  Produced by Scott Philbrook & Forrest Burgess; Audio Editing by Sarah Vorhees; Ryan McCullough Sound Design; Research Assistance by Tess Pfeifle and the astonishing League of Astonishing Researchers, a.k.a. The Astonishing Research Corps, or "A.R.C." for short. Copyright 2017 Astonishing Legends Productions, LLC. All Rights Reserved.

Ep 74: The Jersey Devil - Prince of the Pine Barrens (Part 1)

“It was neither beast, nor man, nor spirit, but a hellish brew of all three.” 
– Vance Larner, writing in his diary about his encounter with the Jersey Devil in 1790.
 
 
Leeds Point, Galloway, New Jersey, United States.  As the most popular version of the legend of the Jersey Devil goes, Deborah Leeds (nee Smith) emigrated from England to marry Daniel Leeds in the mid-Eighteenth century.  When her 13th child was born, she cursed the difficult labor and the already impoverishing cicumstances of a brood of 12, and invoked the Devil.  The infant became a ghastly cryptid and has haunted the New Jersey Pine Barrens ever since.  Some legends have it as a "Mrs. Shrouds" as the beast's mother.
 

Background: 

They say if you meet someone from New Jersey, Pennsylvania or New York, you don't ask them if they've heard of the "Jersey Devil," you ask them if they've had some kind of encounter with it.  The legend of the curious cryptid is so prolific, they've no doubt heard of it, and if they've spent any time near the Pine Barrens of "The Garden State," more often than not you'll find they've experienced some evidence of the beast, or know someone who has.  Folklorists say that there are more than 30 variations of the legend,  but the main origin story of New Jersey's own "Official Demon" goes all the way back to 1735, and a Mrs. Leeds of Galloway, NJ, who upon a difficult delivery of her 13th child, exclaimed it might as well be a devil – which, if the tale is to be believed, you should never do.  Since then, the story has been so popular that the idea of The Jersey Devil has made its way into movies, television, and video games, and is even the inspiration for the name of New Jersey's National Hockey League team.  But why has this tale endured for at least 282 years?  Is it because somehow the legend is just so fantastic that people can't forget it?  Or is it because, as so many residents throughout the years have claimed, from New Jersey's eastern shores, through the mysterious Pine Barrens all the way to western Pennsylvania, something really is out there?

 

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Related Books:

The Jersey Devil
By James F McCloy, Ray Miller Jr.
The Jersey Devil
By Hunter Shea
The Flight of Dragons
By Peter Dickinson
Phantom of the Pines: More Tales of the Jersey Devil
By James F. McCloy, Ray, Jr. Miller
 

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Credits:

Episode 74: The Jersey Devil: Prince of the Pine Barrens (Part 1).  Produced by Scott Philbrook & Forrest Burgess; Audio Editing by Sarah Vorhees; Ryan McCullough Sound Design; Research Assistance by Tess Pfeifle and the astonishing League of Astonishing Researchers, a.k.a. The Astonishing Research Corps, or "A.R.C." for short. Copyright 2017 Astonishing Legends Productions, LLC. All Rights Reserved.